and where’s the problem?
Ok fair when you put it that way.
Be able to be penned by SPAA isn’t really a great metric for balance on its own.
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The Ikv 103 should not lose the slpsgr HEAT-FS round nor be lowered to 3.3, where it currently sits at 4.0 is perfectly fine and makes it a fun but not too insanely strong vehicle while being uptier proof due to the HEAT-FS.
Imo, if the devs want to do this they should add the Ikv 102 and limit it to HE, smoke and stock HEAT (psgr m/49) from the Ikv 103 at 3.3. This tank already got passed a year or so ago and would fit perfectly in the spot the Ikv 103 is unfairly being shoehorned into.
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XP-55
- Air Realistic Battles: 4.3 → 4.0
- Removal of 2 x 20 mm cannons and replacement with two .50-cal machine guns (Bug Report).
Reasoning: Historically, the XP-55 Ascender was never armed with two 20 mm cannons and two .50-cal machine guns. The report I created cites a source stating that the XP-55 was equipped only with four .50-cal machine guns during construction. Along with another report already correcting its engine performance, this warrants a reduction of one BR step by replacing the 20 mm cannons with .50-cal machine guns.
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How you figure?
If the tanks are moving around (and with more speed) there’s tons of bouncing on the guns.
Which differs from RGB where a lot of the attacks are ambush - where the attacker is sitting and waiting. Not a lot of gun movement there.
IMO STAB is equally important in both modes.
i think arcade has a semi-stabilised gun for every vehicle where sway is generally reduced, ontop of the fact that traverse rates are higher
Will the f-106 receive the aim-26B (the flz 64/79 in game on the mirage IIIS) since the bug report was acepted?
Id say front penned by br 2.7 AA while in a 3.7- soon to be 4.0 really is.
m24 is fast but so is the AA. m24 gets bounced by other tanks armour while the AA spray doesnt. Both AA and m24 get 1 popped, AA vics get over penned quite often so id even say its more survivable.
Other than range… but again with the m24 its not really a sniper so AA> m24 in every way…
Im pretty new to ground but I dont see what else is coming into play here?
Well clearly if a 4.7 SPAA can do this it should be, very OP vehicle ignoring the fact it’s a useless SPAA, also we’ll ignore the fact I sat there for like 5 minutes trying to kill it, so many times I had to go back to reload
@tokerstar this also isn’t a very good argument, seriously what kinda IS is gonna sit here and let me do this for 3 minutes without nuking my crew?
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Finally, the 11.7 Tornados will have some breathing room, but I still think they should be at 11.0. Also, why not move the 12.3 ones down to 12.0 or 11.7? In Air RB, there’s no reason for them to be at such high BRs when they only carry 2 AIM-9Ls .
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You could be right - I really don’t know.
Even if arcade has some sort of primitive handling built in (it must be modest else why have STAB on specific vehicles) the game-play differences between the 2 modes would offset something like that.
I don’t play tons of RGB, but when I do I notice that …
- it’s LOT slower pace, so players can take more time aiming
- Not nearly as much shooting while on the move - which means attacker has had time to settle gun and minimize the bounce.
I maintain my stance that STAB makes a difference in both modes. Which is why vehicles like the T-34-85 (STB) have the same BR in both arcade and RGB. If STAB was significantly less important to Arcade, I would expect the T-34 to have a BR rating of 6.0 instead of 6.3.
The m/42 bridgelayer wouldn’t be better than the EH. It would weigh more and be harder to traverse with. Not to mention you’ll give away your position to everyone. Might even justify a lower BR.
Gamemode: GRB
Vehicle: challenger 2 2f TES OES CUP
BR: 11.7 > 11.3
reasoning: no where near on par with its with things at its br and much more comparable to things at 11.3 as the tank is arguably worse than almost every other 11.7 and would fit much better with it current performance at 11.3
this would make it the same br as merkava 3s t72B3 IPM1 which are all either on par with or better than the challenger 2 series especially the uparmoured ones
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The Slpgr m/43(spårljuspansargranat m/43) on the Pvkv III and Pvkv IV should be 97mm not 88mm. Should help dealing with heavier targets.
This could mean a 0.3 br increase for the Pvkv III anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Aircraft: Mirage 2000D-R1 , Mirage 2000D-RMV
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Br change: Mirage 2000D-R1 12.3>12.0
Mirage 2000D-RMV 12.7>12.3
While the compression is bad i think its ok for the Mirage 2000D-R1 to be the same br as the C-S4 since it has more Countermeasures in trade for Flight performance but maybe it could go below the C-S4 in BR. The Mirage 2000D-RMV is overtiered in Air RB the HMS doesnt help when fighting Su27SM Su30 F15C J10 F-2A that have 3x-5x the missiles you have and better Flight performance.
So apparently the Mirage 2000C-S4 is gonna be the same br as the Mirage 2000C-S5 and Strike Aircraft variant the Mirage 2000D-R1 with a missing Gun Stock No HMS, No 530D and the Mirage 2000D-RMV with HMS a higher br without the 530D and No Gun unless grinded out the Strike Variants are Overtiered only having 2x Missiles for Air RB isnt enough at 12.7+.
I think Air RB NEEDs 15.0 BR minimum best would be 15.3 this again a proof for higher BR numbers and why changing BR’s up and down every now and then isnt gonna do it.
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Iv seen that tank eat multiple tank rounds to the side like its nothing. The AA did ok
Gamemode: GRB
Vehicle: Cheiftain mk10 & cheiftain 900
BR: 9.3 > 9.0 (or keep 9.3 with a ROF buff from 7.5s to 5s)
reasoning: these 2 tanks had 0 reason to move up in br in the first place idk how gaijin thinks there fine at the same br as T72 KPZ/MBT 70 being very sluggish and the only reason for the MK10 being turret armour and the only reason for the 900 being a slightly better engine still being worse than the KHALID at the SAME BR however i think all cheiftains would be fine with there current br with a ROF buff
changing the reload from 7.5S to 5S on all cheiftain variants including
Cheiftain MK3
Cheiftain MK5
Cheiftain MK10
Cheiftain 900
Khalid
this would make them better and a bit more deserving of there current br
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Then I guess object 906 should go down in BR. And the Hellcat…
Being able to be penetrated by SPAA is such a narrow minded view of balance.
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the su-27sm does NOT have TVC and it has the same or fewer missile count iirc they have the same radar, same missiles and basically the same FM.