Besides the massive amount (90% of the list) that are bad changes objectively.
Not only the 11.7 CR2s, but also the 3TD and 12.7 CR2s do not match the appropriate BR
Vehicle: PzH 2000 (all nations)
BR Change: 7.7 → 8.0 or 8.3 (GRB)
Reason: This is a menace of a SPG. Its combination of an insanely fast reload, LRF, massive damage, and high shell velocity allow it to completely shut down parts of a map. It’s just rough being in a slow WW2 relic trying to go up against a monster like this. It’s a more refined AS90 and is oppressive for all the same reasons and more.
This post here lays out a number of possible buffs that could be given to the PzH 2000 to ease its transition into a more suitable, higher battlerating.
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Amx-30b2 brennus
8.7->9.0 grb
Update the model on it and fix the bugs on it.
The brenus era is missing it’s correct protection against KE and CE munitions:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Z0H3xuwhqEkH
The possibility to fire apds or maybe even apfsds projectiles from the 20mm autocannon:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VvHhjWeofCQS
Easier use of the 20mm coax:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4ROT29whTprT
Fix the mantlet armor.
Give it better apfsds to compensate for it being an unstabilized tank at 9.0
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Germany RB BR’s:
- Panzer IV F2: 3.3 up to 3.7
This is a parallel to the M4A1/T-34 (1940)/Cromwell V and should be moved up.
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Germany RB BR’s:
- Panzer IV G: 3.3 up to 4.0.
This is the parallel to the M4 and as seen in my comment above should be moved up with it.
5 Likes
Vehicle: Chi-Nu II
BR Change: 4.3 → 4.0 (GRB)
Reason: Basically just a late model Pz IV with even less armor and uncapped APHE, but you get a lot more explosive filler. Its current position is less problematic now that the Pz IV seems to be going up, but the Chi-Nu II still feels more like 4.0 material.
The gun is quite potent with its high pen and large HE filler, but the shells are uncapped and can be fickle as a result. You have no armor to work with at all and your mobility is quite mediocre, leaving this to run as a pure sniper or support tank.
The Pz IV H does not have as much explosive filler, but its armor can give it lucky bounces and allow it to bully some weaker tanks and its capped shell is much more dependable. The Pz IV also does not store any ammo in the turret, aiding its survivability. The sideskirts on the Pz IV are also quite good against many of the howitzer tanks and HEAT you will face at this BR.
Overall, these two tanks are fairly equal to eachother and should sit at the same battle rating.
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Germany RB BR’s:
- Sd.Kfz.234/2: 3.7 up to 4.0, and make it Rank III.
Many players take this as high as 6.3 as their light tank. It’s one of those vehicles that has a decent gun no matter what BR it’s in and Rank III would make it viable for events.
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Germany RB BR’s:
- M4 748(a): 4.0 up to 4.3.
Same as my M4A2 suggestion. It’s the exact same vehicle and should be higher.
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Vehicle: Chi-Ri
BR Change: 5.7 → 5.0 (GRB)
Reason: Sure, it has an autoloader, but it doesn’t actually reload much faster than any other tank. It is still stuck with the same uncapped ammo from the same gun as the Chi-Nu II and struggles massively in uptiers. It has little hope of performing at all when it is the size of a barn, has merely average mobility, poor armor, and a relatively weak gun. There just really isn’t anything going for this tank currently. The Chi-Ri exists for its high RoF, high damage gun. If that doesn’t work, this tank doesn’t work.
While I feel this is more of a sidegrade to the Chi-To than anything, dropping this to 5.0 would still be a massive help. In a full uptier, its gun would still be something that other tanks need to worry about. In a full downtier, its large size and weak armor would still leave it vulnerable to crafty enemies. Even its RoF wouldn’t be too oppressive as it is only half a second faster than the Sherman’s 75mm.
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UK RB BR’s:
- Cromwell V: 3.3 up to 3.7 but give it M61 APHE as a Rank III modification.
It should look something like this.
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UK RB BR’s:
- Cromwell I: 3.7 up to 4.0.
It is superior to the Cromwell V thanks to the shoulder stab, rate of fire, and penetration. The BR increase would be further justified once my bug report on the 6-Pdr is implemented. It should have the 6-Pdr Mk V which would improve penetration. There is also the option to add the missing 6-Pdr APCR and APDS ammo.
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They should update the model to L/48 like the italian one and move to rank III 4.0 aswell.
UK RB BR’s:
- Ram II: 3.7 up to 4.0
Same reasons as my US M4A5. It’s a very meta vehicle.
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China RB BR’s:
- M4A4: 3.7 up to 4.0.
The Chinese equivalent to the M4. Should be moved along with it as per my suggestions above.
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Italy:
- Sherman V: 3.7 up to 4.0.
Same reason as the Chinese M4A4 above.
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not really, there’s not much reason for the étendard to be 9.0
Vehicle: Pvkv IV
BR Change: 3.0 → 2.3 (GRB)
Reason: Mediocre mobility, mediocre gun, pathetic armor, horrible turret traverse speed. This tank will struggle regardless of what BR it is at, but at 2.3 it will at least not constantly struggle to penetrate enemy vehicles and can play a proper sniper role.
Vehicles like the M3 GMC and SU-76D exist at BR 2.3 or lower with even stronger guns than the Pvkv IV, so the Pvkv IV should be fine there too. Its paper-thin armor, small crew size, and horribly slow turret means that it’s an easy kill for any tank at all that gets its hands on it.
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Its peers are also 9.0 or should be 9.0 in the case of various F86 and MiGs. It IS better than most if not all 8.7s that are not undertiered such as said F86 or MiG types