Update 2.57.1.70 (Battle Rating changes implemented)

Right, that’s undisputable, and the American M44A2 should be 4.3. But even the French M4A1 outperforms the Italian Pz.IV G. They’re just not that good.

@Beeschurger , @Ghostmaxi , @Nostalgistic GUYS the survey is still wide open until 14 of August gajin BR changes came on the 6th NONE will be reflected until maybe a whole month if gajin actually reads each feedback 1 by 1 and gajin probably starts looking at them on the 14th they also have to clear out the ones that aren’t actually feedback(also Gaijin why did you put the dates like this BR changes on the 6th and feedback ending on the 14th could have waited)

if Gaijin is listen it will take sum time to look at the problaby over 100k feedback submitted the BR changes next time might take some feedback into consideration but who knows we will just have to wait and see and be “happy” with this BR change even tho it may not be good

I doubt the survey will help Quality of Life. We’re exhausted after screaming for decompression. Now we got Tiger ll’s and IS2’s facing M4A2’s and the first T34-85’s and SU30’s facing F16A’s and Phantom ll’s.

Just give us 16.0 for Ground and Air and spread out the vehicles. If the game is enjoyable people will play, long queue times is just a bad excuse for poor monetization efforts.

Has Gaijin completely lost their mind? These recent BR changes are absolutely insane. How can anyone move vehicles like the M44, M55, Hummel, or SU-152 down to lower BRs?

How am I supposed to play against these monsters with a Matilda at BR 2.7? My gun can barely penetrate anything, yet absolutely everything destroys me instantly. Even German tanks with 50mm guns at BR 2.3 can penetrate almost everything, while the Matilda’s armor is useless. Now, because of these changes, BR 2.7 plays in a full UPTIER 95% of the time against Hummels and SU-152s. It has become completely unplayable. It is impossible to play. Period. Is anyone even thinking at Gaijin, or are you just blindly following player statistics without using common sense? The Matilda desperately needs to be moved down to BR 2.0, otherwise, it’s just another dead, unplayable tank.

And where is the logic in other tiers? Why does the T29 still remain at 7.0 instead of moving up to 7.3 alongside the IS-3? It makes no sense. The automatic balancing based purely on statistics is ruining the game. War Thunder is becoming just a frustrating, dying game. My patience is gone.

At the very least, uptiers should be limited to a maximum of 30% of matches. Currently, brackets like 2.7, 6.7, 8.0, 9.3, and 10.3 are entirely unplayable because you get uptiered 95% of the time. Please, stop destroying the game and start thinking about actual gameplay balance instead of just looking at spreadsheets.

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Gaijin takes a while to change premium vehicle BRs since su30s have been for a while its hopefully the next BR change it will be 13.7 like how long gajin too to change BMPT and T58 well not T58 that didn’t take too long not gonna say why… but hopefully BVVD himself is going through every feedback but what I think will happen is the feedback will be in categorys because so many people probably asked for SU30 change they will be grouped and BVVD will just see that I would want to see an overview of the feedback was mostly about on the news as proof Gaijin read it

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we’ve already had multiple posts about the Su-30’s br placements in various br change threads since their addition with 100+ likes
gaijin is not gonna uptier them

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Gaijin never listens to BR rants on the fourms they only look at suggestions and bug reports on fourms

atleast not yet

i mean that is atleast something

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after 2 years they will go up dw

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Id love to share your optimism, but if you think about that answer, its the usual corpo speak.

Like, correct me if im wrong, but didnt we get 14.7 only around this feb?

Meaning both premium Su-30s were facing what is current top tier for at least two months just fine?

Not to mention the “lot of ARH missiles” statement itself is just as if not more problematic. There are F-16s sitting at higher BRs with 6x missiles total, not to mention absolute highest missile count on single plane currently is 12x on 15C GE, no?

So according to gaijin plane with 10x missiles total would be totally outclassed against planes with 10x or 12x missiles, but its apparently perfectly fine for anything between 12.3 and 13.3 to be outclassed by Su-30s missile count.

Sorry if im yapping too much, but I currently dont have any hopes for the 12.3-13.3 BR range.

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I beg your pardon?

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what I mean is Gaijin probably haven’t even started looking at feedback

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Survey and BR feedback are separate.

They had a chance to seriously consider and incorporate our feedback in the August BR changes thread, but that was insufficient.

Cannot do anything about it until the next BR changes thread this fall or later.

ik that’s what I mean they had a chance but since feedback ends on 14th the 6th August BR changes have nothing to do with it the next BR changes are what Gaijin will use feedback for

Decompression is needed everywhere. Playing 7.7 ship vs Sojuz/Iowa or facing Pantsir-S1in 11.0-11.3 attacker is even worse experience.

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just give f18c premiums aim120s and put them at 13.3 too also stona please stop coping

it wouldn’t be 13.3 with the 120s, it would be be 14.0 like the rest of the legacy hornets

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just give them 9M and move them to 13.0.

the canadian one isnt even capable of using aim-120 so there would be a disparity that cant be rectified

then if it will be like that why is rb99 premium at 13.0 and su30s at 13.3 if every fox3 is going to 14.0 then that’s fine as long as they have a good fox2 too