Where’s he the OP? A naval aircraft with two missiles against hordes of Su-27/30SM/Gripens? Is he the OP? I understand the wild imagination and all that, the youthful maximalism of it all. So, you were shot down in some Su-27 by those Tornados, you’re holding a grudge, but why is he the OP?
By the way, wouldn’t you like to boost the combat rating of the premium Su-30?
It doesn’t really effect the Zeros much. They will still outturn everything, and be outran by everything. The F-14 being moved up effects how it plays.
Why would anybody buy a Japanese premium at this point, when they get up tiered every patch?
Mean while we have the T58 that’s had a higher K/D then EITHER BMPT every month, but one where one BMPT slightly out did it, since it’s introduction and it’s gone up one single step.
Lets just push the 4s autloaded insanely maneuverable tank with a decent shell and hydraulic suspension off to the side and pay no attention to it
Im not denying gaijin has blatant bias to moneymakers, especially USSR, but be reasonable and fair with it
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Nah, they fear the power of the Tonka
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdXau9KFKG4
https://youtu.be/c8nPfrbkqiA
https://youtu.be/ZH3Ly1RajsY
https://youtu.be/JxBjM8OU6Fw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjS-drxcP0I
They know that if the Tonka was properly balanced they would not be able to compete :P
If it weren’t obvious by now, Im being sarcastic and have been advocating for them to go down to 12.0. Especially since the recent increase in compression, but still quite funny when you slap the living hell out of something that should eat you for breakfast
p.s
The Tornado isnt a naval aircraft
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12.3
Oh, how much I'm waiting for this.
Why does everyone forget about the F-20, which should have a 12.3 BR ?
It’s funny to see how many people complain about the F-2A ADTW, even though it’s just a slightly improved F-16 on 13.0. But at the same time, everyone is happy with the Kfir C10, with the dumbest gameplay in the world.
MIG-29 - rest in peace, bro.
Accidentally took a P-39 into 11.0 the other day and a F-5C tried dogfighting me, reverse his turn in from of my guns, and died lol.
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The system itself makes no sense from a player’s perspective - yes. But Gaijin’s current BR system is based on SL/RP income on average - and not necessarily connected to things like K/D ratio even if for pure fighters there are no base bombing “distractions”.
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As soon as average performance is the main factor in BR determination you have the issue that masses of highly motivated but equally highly inexperienced players “ruin” the BR of certain vehicles by lowering the BR despite the vehicle is highly effective in the “right” hands. Same the other way around - few specialists flying a certain plane increase the BRs way above their actual capabilities.
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If you think your statement & examples through you simply imply that average player performance should be a relevant factor regarding the true flight performance & maximum combat capabilities.
My example with just considering the best 5-10% of the player base for each aircraft as reference point for the BR would simply increase the BRs of classic clubber planes and implement way more realistic BRs in general for all other aircraft.
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In other words: BRs on actual combat capabilities would allow fair BRs regarding the aircraft (=hardware) whilst each player (=software) is in charge to learn his shit.
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The main issue is competitiveness - so in an ideal world two equally skilled pilots fight each other in comparable aircraft - differences between speed, climb & turn might be there but the outcome depends on pilot skill.
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Honestly the fact that this is now reality is the most depressing, and incredibly nonsensical change I have ever seen gaijin make in a BR adjustment.
And we don’t even have an explanation as to why.
The current BR spread for WW2 Prop aircraft is IMO the least balanced it has ever been in the history of the game. WW2 is my favourite era to play but props just don’t feel fun anymore because its so absurdly imbalanced.
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Are you perhaps arguing that they werent OP?
Is there anyway to suggest BR placements because some just seem outright unreasonable?
It was a week ago here: Updated Planned Battle Rating Changes (April 2026)
You need to wait for another official thread.
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Thanks to american players who press S and engage turnfight against Zero…
/s
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you did, by posting in a public forum.
and whether my opinion matters to you or not, i’m still right. the AIM-120C is garbage and makes no difference.
people are clearly dissatisfied, wouldn’t hurt to open another one and this time actually listen specifically about the Su-30 and BMPT too.
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two threads were entirely insufficient considering many vehicles that were suggested to have their BRs moved since they’re either absolutely trash or overpowered where they currently are (think Kurnass 2000 overtiered, Su-30 undertiered, BMPT undertiered, Tigershark overtiered, a bunch of dissatisfaction regarding tanks everyhwere, early jets, and late props). not to mention the atrocious BR changes that were implemented, with no chance to protest them before they were tossed into the game with no thought.
respectfully, neither the forum moderators nor gaijin themselves have any idea how to balance this game and what to pass on for consideration.
you need to do better, you can do better. everyone knows you can do better. but you do not.
take this more seriously. i speak for everyone when i say: we are upset with your choices.
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I’m sorry but Stona is one person, Stona did not say yeah these br changes are good lets go. That was a group of people, which I doubt Stona is part of as I feel that is another group of people who over look the feedback. I could be wrong as I don’t work for Gajin. Still Balancing the game is hard enough with how many people that play, and I can assure you that, you don’t speak for all of us. If you want to look at a fix look at how things are thrown into battle with match making, or maybe have match making based off the level system to help balance match making. For Example, level 1-10 only see each other in battle at that br, and so forth. But that may not work, and they try to make what they got now work, it’s not easy. The people they try to make happy, will not always get what they want, or be fully satisfied. Yet we the people have yet to say thank you for trying to get the balance right, instead people are throwing a fit over it without knowing how it fully works.
i’m not specifically blaming stona, i’m blaming the whole team.
plenty suggestions were ignored by the forum moderators, plenty were dismissed by gaijin, and some were flat out rejected by gaijin like the BMPT and Su-30.
on the forum side we need more chances to voice our concerns regarding BR balancing, on gaijin’s side they need to get themselves together and stop ignoring our concerns regarding the BMPT and Su-30.
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