More Abrams nerfs. Talk about beating a dead horse.
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Finally, only taken, a year?
Shame you didn’t update the sea harriers RWR too
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/MgaUACicEIL3
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Abrams nerf this, nerf that. When realistic Abrams??? Abrams buff when?
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it was a fix, they even gave you the source
the M830A1 was over performing in explosive mass
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when you have sources for your claims that are openly avaiable
it is funny that ppl only want realism when it is a buff to their vehicle
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When are you gonna fix sound back to how it was
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I’ve seen a lot of credible bug reports and a lot of stuff. Some have been accepted. Don’t be such a hater. I only want the vehicles to perform as they were intended.
There is no implementation of these. Maybe the later M829A3 (iirc) that has the anti-ERA tip.
No. I want realism. Nerf it. Nerf everything that is not real about it BUT buff it to where it needs it, but i digress
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you know that everyone would get better better rounds and not only the US
ppl would complain even more about the abrams if that happens
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Ok. Will it be realistic? Most probably. Will i care?
No, 'cause the Abrams is already pretty bad compared to other tanks. I would be nice if it will at least be realistic.
Hope you can get the point
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Russian ERA is overperforming right now too, and shouldn’t stop darts at (i think) 1.5km distance.
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Russian ERA shouldn’t stop APFSDS at point blank on the side, but 80% of the time it does
More like 99.99% of the time.
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Ehh. I had some M829A2 pen but rarely.
Challenger 2 sipping tea
Merkava sipping Ice Café
Ariete Sipping an Espresso
ZTZ99A Sipping tea
Leclerc sipping wine
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None of them suffer from the huge turret ring issue except the Ariete which they’re penetrable by anything.
No, but they suffer from about 50 other issues.
Challenger 2 I know best so let me quickly summarise
- L27A1 has extremely weak post-pen damage
- L27A1 is underperforming in terms of pen
- CR2 is misisng large amounts of armour
- Its missing spall liners
- its ERA barely works
- It has a 4 round ready rack with a 20 second replenishment time per round (Should be 28 round ready rack)
- It still has major mobility issues (yes it will always be slow, but shouldnt struggle to get up slight hills)
the gunbreach has a literal hole in it
and thats just a few I can I think of off the top of my head.
The point is, the Abrams is the third strongest tank in the game, so claiming its not is extremely disingenuous. You have one the best mobility, second best shell, one of the best RoF, great protection.
Quite frankly. the Abrams should NEVER have gotten 5 second reload and im not saying the Abrams shouldnt have some of its bug reports fixed, just, its WAAAAAYYYYY stronger than pretty much everyone else at the moment. I had an abrams tank 3 L27A1 rounds through the LFP the other day and he was able to get behind cover and repair. That is not weak.
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Someone tell HMS Hood War Thunder fixed their design flaw and they should ask Bismarck for a do over.
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TWS locking ghost objects, including objects sub terrain?
Floating Terrain?
Terrain hitboxes?
Vehicles de-rendering on 30m away from you with LOS?
Inaccurate M1 hydraulic model?
Inaccurate turret rotation and turret basket links?
Hand cranked turrets reducing traverse time on engine failure?
Can we maybe look at the game breaking bugs first please.
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The Abrams starting from the M1A2 is garbage and you fight against superior tanks most of the time, they also suffer from several issues such as:
Missing any proper hull protection and it did not improve even after adding 5 Abrams to the game.
No DU in the tank (turret cheeks KE protection is based on export models)
Hydraulic pump is a bug (once shot at it will catch fire and damage your crew if you’re not so fast in extinguishing it, you’d die)
Missing 150mm of protection in turret ring and it should be volumetric.
Fuel tank bulk heads are not modelled correctly.
SEPV2 should’ve came with M829A3 as a buff against the Russian horde, but they said “Muh it wouldn’t add anything to the US” while it’s literally made to penetrate Kontakt.
Several other issues, but my point is YES the Abrams is better than most tanks ingame but it should be better honestly considering their true capabilities in real life, they should be on par with T90M,2A7,B+ in terms of protection, literall no American player asked for a reload buff, they wanted DU in hull and turret cheeks, asked for spall liners, turret ring issue fixed, guess what they got.
The fact they fix and nerf few things in US but not fix the ACTUAL problems the players suffer from is them telling us that they do WHATEVER they want, Merkavas are rotting in several problems for years.
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Such as?
I can only think of the Leopard 2s and maybe the T-80 BVM
We have 7 CR2s, still no fixes at all
Didnt think that was proven
Again, so is pretty much everyone else
And then the Challenger 3 should have come with DM83 and L27A1 is also made to do the same.
I dont really get why you are complaining about shell performance when you have the second best in game just slightly behind DM53, but most DM53 slingers have a 6 second reload, you only have 5…
Again, so would everyone else.