The su22um3k can use r60m. It’s a trainer, not a downgraded export.
I never said it can’t.
22K vehicles are simply secondary downgrades. Think MiG-29 9-12A vs 9-12B, and hence they have pros and cons.
One of its largest pros are an unbelievable amount of flares. In return, worse A2A missiles
Its realistic application IRL was questionable
Since when is this relevant?
and there was a large and jarring gap of effective SPAA.
So removing an effective SPAA to make it an uneffective SPAA is how you fill gaps?
What SPAA do you propose?
Start with not ruining the SPAA of minor nations with absurd BRs… in what world is the OTO a top tier SPAA?
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It’s been mentioned multiple times before? Do we need to reevaluate the D5T firing HEATFS point?
What other SPAA do you propose? Seeing as a finnish ZSU-57-2 had to be used to get from a shitty 4.3 tank to 7.0, do you have any ideas as to a competent swedish SPAA that can fill the 7.3-8.0 gap?
A world where a leading nation in military technology took a multipurpose autocannon that was known as the most effective anti-air platform, used by literally dozens of navies across the world, and put it onto a mobile chassis.
What more do you want from it? a 3" RF guided munition capable of reaching out to 30km?
It’s been mentioned multiple times before?
No idea what that point is.
What other SPAA do you propose? Seeing as a finnish ZSU-57-2 had to be used to get from a shitty 4.3 tank to 7.0, do you have any ideas as to a competent swedish SPAA that can fill the 7.3-8.0 gap?
Yeah, another VEAK 40 without proxy without removing the VEAK that has proxy.
Suddenly we cannot copy paste anymore in a game that has the audacity to sell them for $70?
A world where a leading nation in military technology took a multipurpose autocannon that was known as the most effective anti-air platform, used by literally dozens of navies across the world, and put it onto a mobile chassis.
What more do you want from it? a 3" RF guided munition capable of reaching out to 30km?
Yeah, a military that isn’t limited by the limitations of a videogame world created by gaijin, to create a perfect scenario for air forces by creating an extremely unrealistic situation where long range radars do not exist and anti-air operates without any sort of support… you think in a real world scenario the Italian airspace was protected by a singular OTO parked in a field somewhere without any sort of intel?
And this somehow is also the case in 2024?
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That its realistic application is questionable
Oh wow, another vehicle to grind through! Better yet, a picture perfect copy of the one already existing!
You do understand that there would then be more in-game models of the VEAK 40 than there were IRL?
You’re asking for the exact same historical version of a basically fictitious tank to be placed before it… That is in no way similar to adding a variant of X to nation Y, featuring different capabilities.
They seem to be defending fleets around the world using nothing bit their own intel… What point are you trying to prove?
zsu-57-2m
Find me one singular image of it.
That its realistic application is questionable
It’s a game about time traveling, if this vehicle has to fight unrealistic scenarios against unrealistic targets in unrealistic locations then suddenly realism is the problem and it cannot use a certain shell?
Oh wow, another vehicle to grind through! Better yet, a picture perfect copy of the one already existing!
You do understand that there would then be more in-game models of the VEAK 40 than there were IRL?
Yeah… imagine that! Like a Type 74 into a Type 74 into a Type 74 into a Type 74 into a Type 90 into a Type 90 B into a Type 10 into a TKX.
But oh… it gets 10mm plates on the front… WOWZERS. #worth.
Yeah can’t imagine what that would be like, but then a vehicle that ACTUALLY adds value to your lineup and fills a gap, unlike a plethora of identical vehicles at the same BR.
You do understand that there would then be more in-game models of the VEAK 40 than there were IRL?
This is relevant how? If two players spawn one that is also the case… the horror.
You’re asking for the exact same historical version of a basically fictitious tank to be placed before it… That is in no way similar to adding a variant of X to nation Y, featuring different capabilities.
In a videogame that doesn’t care about historical accuracy and for the sake of gameplay, yes.
They seem to be defending fleets around the world using nothing bit their own intel… What point are you trying to prove?
Yeah… I’m sure they don’t have radars or anything of the kind and no other means to protect themselves.
Prinz Eugen and Admiral Hipper to 5.7 😄
there was no damn gap, swedish spaa up to the veak all where more effective against tanks than air, sweden allready had the zsu and the he-vt is memtioned in a document, made public in 1972, of the us army allready mentioned by someone, also the document states a radio proxy fuse of 4,8 meters instead of the 4meters ingame
LMAO the F-86 and MiG-15 are now 8.0 while the Mystere IIC is still 8.7 despite being worse in pretty much every way. Mystere IIC should be 8.0 and IIB should be 7.7
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Night battles should be more common…
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Isn’t there an option to just join right battles?
I’m curious about the rationale behind the Type 81’s Battle Rating being adjusted to 11.3 leaving its only lineup of 11.0. Typically, players are expected to provide explanations when suggesting BR changes. However, I haven’t come across any explanation for vehicles like the Type 81 being pushed in BR despite being essentially the same vehicle that was initially introduced at 10.0 BR. What made it kept going up to this point ?
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Did the change from HTA to octol on the HOT-2 have an in game effect on TNT equivalent / penetration or is it a change in name only?
I thought I heard that this update was gonna change the ammo in game somehow?
This BR changes to AIR RB are seriously stupid and not wanted you should move the few 9.3 planes like f104 higher but you just think that mig15s are on the same level like venoms or swift F1 etc, like wtf are you guys thinking and why did you have to ruin the game more instead listening to you player base… shame
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