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esp funny since the BAE Systems Datasheet says OVER 80 kph for the 90120 https://www.baesystems.com/en-media/uploadFile/20210908150343/1434585858794.pdf

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Because thats not the 90120 we have in game

From BAE as well:

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600kW at 2350 rpm and speed of 70/40 km/h. HP and Speed are correct.

so they named it just CV90120 without the variant moniker ? because thats the -T variant, and the datasheed is from 2006, where the one i linked is from 2020 and has no variant moniker?

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Well, thats is just Gaijin being Gaijin with names,

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You’re missing the point. When fitted with the 600kW engine, the CV90120 can only go 70kph. Otherwise, by your reasoning the 100hp engine in my car should have no bearing on the possibility of my car being able to go as fast as an F1 car. Since, y’know, engine power is irrelevant to the top speed that can be achieved according to you.

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the 2020 datasheet isn’t really a datasheet as many of the points say “up to” or “above” and such.
the CV90 family is a mix and match thing where every vehicle can be customized for each costumer.
technically that specific datasheet is for the “CV90120 MkIV”

Actually Jane’s Information Group was always the author. For a time they were owned by Interavia S.A, who was the publisher from 1968 - 1995. After that Jane’s purchased the publisher to publish themselves.

I do find it a bit odd that they decided to stop considering Jane’s a valid source though. You see USAF reviews using them as a general source in the 90s, and now they are still the biggest global defence intelligence distributor. If anything their credibility has only improved.

The Janes stamp of trust means supplying our customers with timely, validated, unbiased and relevant intelligence in a world crowded with increasingly unreliable information.

With an unmatched legacy of more than 120 years, Janes has adapted, expanded, and developed its unique tradecraft whilst transitioning from a traditional military publisher to the leading global agency for open-source intelligence.

That’s the original publication from 1898.
edit: sorry I didn’t mean to reply to you Wareta

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Apparently it had inaccuracies? I wonder if anyone remembers what these were in order to get them discredited.

I think it’s because Jane’s is such a general source, they’re bound to make mistakes, especially when concerning non-Western (or even non-Anglo) info. Like they’ll perpetuate zombie facts or just use outdated info. Sometimes they just get things wrong.

I very clearly remember an example of Jane’s being very incorrect.
In JFS, for Tanzania they have this photo
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They say it’s a Type 026 MTB… except that’s clearly a Pr.183/Type 02 MTB.

For reference a Type 026 looks like
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And that’s how they should be?

Sure, but when you’ve been going for 120 years a few mistakes are kinda expected. I think it’s a little unfair to say they made a mistake without showing it in the original source. Reverse image search only gives me stuff for a russian air forum.

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I should also say that armament is nonsensical. I think the editor saw the 25mm guns in the pic, and just added that to the copy-pasted info for the “huchuan class”.

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Not to mention “雖然最大瞬間出力低於AOS-895,但因最大淨出力相當,故仍保持了M41A3原有的極速,且最大行程也較M41A3大幅提升。再加上更新了聯動自製的扭力杆懸掛系統,使M41D的機動性優於M41A3." Translated it says net HP is the same between the M41A3 and the M41D, but I’m pretty sure the stat cards list gross HP in-game.

Could it not be used for western sources then specifically. As it’s sure to have relevant and accurate information on sources it’s probably been given access to?

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Ask Gaijin, maybe for say, idk, the Type 93, Jane’s just gave them wrong info so they swore off using it.

Someone could go through a copy of Jane’s and compare it to primary sources and monographs to “determine” its actual reliability but no one has the time for that.

M41D engine buff? Unreal, bump it up to 9.0 immediately

I was gonna say it looks like the mkIV which has the 1000hp engine and weighs 38t

If this is the MKIV which it appears to be then this would be a false bug report would it not? We dont have the T in warthunder, if we did it would have hardkill APS and the remote control turret mounted on top.
(Edit my bad, looks like the version we have in game is the T but missing the rest of the T’s features.)

How many more years until Japan’s top tanks can get their mobility bugs fixed ?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YUp4zglUCsHl

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Britain has 1 WW2 tank that can reverse(ish) now