Unarmed planes suffering from the f14

Can someone explain to me why we have to play with bad plans in super unfair br and there are people who don’t even have the plans that I am going to tell you about and they play things like f14 and the super broken plans and they have the nerve to say that plans like J37D , YAK141, MIG 21 BISON, F20 among others but they do not have FOX 3 and then there are things like the F14 that attacks third and second generation aircraft with 6 active missiles that can fire them at 30 50 km. and there are people who start to say, is this okay? This game is super awkward and it’s getting super horrible to play.

They respect the weapons of airplanes like the F14 when it suits them and airplanes like the MiG 21 and the J37 and the Yak141 and the F20, which are more proven that they can use that weapon and they are super uncomfortable to play and they sell them at absurd prices. expensive and they are not even enjoyable to play shopping to stress you out

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Excellent meme post. 10/10.

Yak-141 would be 13.3 with R-77s.
And F-20 doesn’t have the mounts for AIM-120s.

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PhoenixSuffers

Call me out if I’m stupid or spreading misinformation but I believe that the US developed 2 F-20 variants (F-20A and F-20C) with the latter having the ability to carry AIM-120s and possibly 9Ms. This doesnt refute your point but rather explain why some believe the F-20A could

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The F20 that we have in the game is the last F20, the one with the F18 radar and F18 engine as such there were only 3 prototypes, there is no F20 A or F20Z or F20C as you say and this plane having an F18 radar is compatible with the aim120 since it would have to have TWS, I don’t know where you get the F20C thing from lmao

I also already found out and posted a topic but the tears of those who do not have the f20 are stronger and they were denied it.

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So… whats the problem?

The only un-armed aircraft in the game will never see F-14A, like the Buc S1. All of the aircraft you mentioned are fine at their current BR.

There is only one aircraft that I am aware of currently that has a legitmate issue with the F-14. which is the J35XS which doesnt have an RWR. I’d also say both the Viggen D and Tornado F3 have a bit of a messy time at the moment due to the issues with BOL chaff. But after that. It is a skill issue. F-14A is currently about as high as it can go in its current config. Would need some notable buffs to stand much of a chance any higher than 12.3. Such as adding Aim-9Ls

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Repeat F20 in a br where there are SARCH missiles and a plane only has 45 flares that are hitting active missiles. Does that seem okay to you? Hey, how selfish are people today?

Or the mig 21 bison hitting planes with twice as many missiles or the other planes are denying them weapons when the br is very compressed, are you serious? Do you think the game is good?

you cant evade 17G missile? or what

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Yeah I could’ve sworn I’d found the USAF fact sheet on it at some point but I cannot for the life of me find it again. The F-20 is an odd little thing cause it was adopted for 3 hours (not the actual correct time) and then it wasnt and it never saw actual production.

Honestly where I got the F-20C thing wad the three protoypes as they are technically different models but I blanked on it being 3 and just thought it was 2 (and when I search for it I see so many things titles F-20C but I never checked that they were model kits so mb)

Do you know if the 3rd F-20 prototype as you said actually carried the AIM-120? Cause usually Gaijoobles goes on a basis of whether or not it did carry it with some exceptions. Also I feep that they wont give them to the F-20 already ingame even if it did cause Lvl 18 wallet warriors dont need that much power

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17g It is more than enough to hit at long distances, it is not far from 20G and it is a missile with a lot of range, they will shoot it at you, therefore even if it is 17, my little boy, you will not see it coming. And if I can dodge active missiles, I have better Stats than you but that’s another topic

Smoke trails are invisible to you?

Looks like you have near to 0 valid arguments and trying into stats)
BTW, RB isnt my main gamemode, at least now

Grammar aside the only ARH missiles you’re facing are going to be AIM-54s which are already laughable if you do literally any basic maneuver.

If you don’t know how to notch a SARH missile then thats just a skill issue

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F-20 should have 0 issues dealing with Aim-54s. They arent exactly hard to deal with in something that turns well. Same goes for almost all aircraft at 12.0/12.3 except the F3

Mig-21 BISON has better AAMs than most aircraft at its BR. 2x R-73s + HMD Is near enough 2x guaranteed kills. Especially in a full down tier. Or are the Aim-9Gs on aircraft like the FGR2 and F-14A too OP for the Mig-21 BISON to deal with in a WVR fight?

So what do you want to do about? Delete the F-14 from the game? Whack its BR up so that its facing F-15s with AMRAAM?

I’d say dealing with aircrat like the F-20 or Mig-21 BISON is harder than the F-14As. Occasionally you get someone who is smart/knows how to use the AIm-54, but most of the time its a blind spam that yields no results. I know in the Tornado F3 im basically a free kill to something like the Mig-21 BISON because my CMs barely do anything against a R-73

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WeGG1YD05C1v

However, they haven’t even answered me so I don’t think anything will happen but don’t lose anything by trying.

14B already doing that.
Only thing that helps to get in Top bracket(at least sometimes) - amount of Iran F-14 and premium spam

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You do know that giving the F-20 AMRAAM would increase its BR to 13.3, where it would then face a wall of F-15Cs and Su-27SMs and Gripen Cs?

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It happens that an F20 was destroyed, those that remained alive were the two prototypes that you are talking about, the F20 until the 80s and some of them were still used as bandit for tests against other aircraft

Didnt have to quote my whole reply but I’ll look at it in a bit

But the F-14B does have buffs over the F-14A. Like the better AIm-54s, BOL (despite their nerfs) better IR AAMs. etc.

theyre same actually, or 54C even worser - it heavier

Bol usefull only as Chaff, as IR it just useless, tomcat is too hot for them

when youre getting to IR AAMs range - youre die, in top tier at least.
but yes, 9L better.

Most important difference - AN/ALR-67