As far as i can tell the document says > 360mm of perferation. So while in line with what Warthunder statcard has (it being 400mm, which isn’t outside impossible based on what that document says) , this could probably be reported to be fixed if one wants to.
No, these got removed because they are complete fabrication as to how they are shown in game.
BMP-1/T-55M vs T-90M, Strv122 and M1A2
Celere Sahariano and P26/40 vs IS-2
M1A1 Abrams vs Type 74G and Leopard 1A5 all at the same historical BR. ;)
Wasnt the t54 in service in the 1980s or something? Maybe even still in service in DPRK
Many countries still operate it, though most do so in upgraded standards.
In many they also still operate base models.
M51 has pen but no post damage. It’s one of the most garbage tanks with its current ammo.
Eh, it isn’t garbage but definitely isn’t a forgiving tank by any means.
It really just requires patience and some thought before moving.
In your own screenshot, it’s apparent you haven’t even played it.
If you did, you might appreciate the massive size which makes it difficult to hide, the bouncy suspension meaning you can’t flank effective, the paper thin armor which lets even AAs through from even frontal arcs, the mediocre speed that sees you outpositioned by other mediums, the very inconsistent post pen damage that 105mm HEAT offers, and just generally that penetration is not the only stat that matters.
That you’d even compare it to the Leopard (based purely on the HEAT pen alone, I assume), shows how little you appreciate about these tanks as a whole package.
It’s fine as a tank. My problem is the post pen is garbage the worst gun in the entire game hands down. I use it when I want to get kill assists
“Historical BR” Is a shitshow once people realize how old some equipment is and remains in use for a long long time.
Modernized Chaffee vs Leclerc time baby
The M51 with correct damage could perfectly be at Br 7.0 or 7.7, since that HEAT model was very powerful. The problem is that from the beginning the bullet damage model has been a disaster, and if you add it to tanks that carry bullets that they never used, causing there to be many cases of tanks with a Br that does not make much sense.
Even then I doubt it would go higher than 6.3 or 6.7.
All other disadvantages still apply to the vehicle that other users have already mentioned. Especially at 7.7 the vehicle would be utterly outclassed by it’s competition.
Then again, the M-51 being moved up for an improved damage would imply other heat slingers would move up as well, but that just makes it a “what-if” that we have too little data onto imagine what such a game could look like.
So many people get overly fixated on pen while ignoring every other thing that matters, it’s crazy.
Keep in mind that with that HEAT the M51 can perfectly destroy any tank up to almost Br 8.3, the only thing that happens is that because of the damage model in many cases you need many shots, when in many cases the first one should already be completely disabled , and dead from a second shot.
On the other hand, adjusting the damage would not cause any problem, it would only be so that the WW2 tanks could finally be separated from the post-war tanks, since the game is as it is because of the damage model, that is why we see the Tiger 2 vs Ratel with ATGM.
Would you play the M-51 against leopard 1s?
Historical match-making would be a fun gimmick mode
It used to be a thing with Chronicles of History.
There’s a reason it got canceled, let’s just say that.
