Ukraine Ground Forces Tree

Hm?

Artificial buff: 3BM60
More likely acceptable: TAPNA

Uhhhh auto loader too small

In service, yes. But it could theoretically get the BM44U
Not that BM-42 is unserviceable.

That’s why i said it just “unrealistic”"
TAPNA gonna be more reasonable.

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I wish there was more data on the 3BM44U-series. If anyone has anything more on it, share it. o7

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Doubt they would give it a Slovak APFSDS
I think M711 is more likely IF it gets a better shell at all


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Why did you send image of 3bm42 mango and 3bm60 svinets 2

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It is very tough to find any information, the best I could get was that the round was made using Western 120mm penetrators adapted into a new shell.
Similar to the Polish “Pronit” shell, which may be another option for the tree if it is needed.

KE-W for 120s, TAPNA, Probit, BM44U Maket for 125s?

If its needed

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Yeah, there’s just not enough source material on it. Images sure, but official sources? Practically non-existent. Images of 3BM44U and 3BM44U1.

Bonus fun image of maintenance being done on BM Oplot duplet ERA.

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Gaijin used an images for the round on the 292 from what I know. The round is supposed to be Zaraysk but I could be wrong, there is also very limited information for it.

Estimated length by image isnt even the 44U, and all of these complete rounds on images are just mock ups. The only which isnt is on image with it being on table shown to the military.
44U would be like 3BM42 for Ukraine, as Ukraine lacked even 3BM42 (not enough meaning)
44U1 never came out of mock up IIRC.

The problem is is that we don’t know any of that for sure. Need sources to confirm it but all we have is just forums. There’s been talk of testing, other talk of just a mock up. Need government or defense industry sources to confirm which won’t happen.

You’re right about the length pic. I’m removing it. Just grabbed it from the old forum

3bm42m mango 2 is more real than 3bm44u and u1

You can calculate the length of BM44U2
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tasko_6_jpg_800x600_q85 — копия

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Does anyone have anymore information on the “MOP-4K FSV (Fire Support Vehicle)” based on the BTR-4 Chassis?

So far I have found it mentioned on Wikipedia, Army Recognition, and more sites.
Exact details beyond a BTR-4 Sporting a 120mm are unavailable.

Some silhouettes appear if you search it up :

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Could be a predecessor or successor to the BTR-3E FSV, depending on its specifications and predicted performance

Someone should really do a BTR-3 and BTR-4 Megathread! Someone with more talent than me

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Perhaps a good thing that it doesn’t seem like it was made.
In these renditions it seems to lack any advanced sights

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Only data from their old site: KMDB - BTR-4 Armoured Personnel Carrier

Weight of vehicle with anti-bullet protection t 21+3%
Gun 1 x 120 mm
Amunition rds 40
Machine gun 1 x 12.7 mm
Amunition rds 450

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Pretty sure the project was cut do to budgetary constraints. The industry is now flowing with a lot of money so I’m curious what they might go and develop or back to. Hopefully more BTR-4, BTR-3, (and there variants) and Oplot’s. Oplot with full production 120mm’s would be sick.

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