the camo looks so nice but i dont know something feels out of place
You can brute-force Ukraine into the USSR tree if you really want to.
But doing so cripples a lot of possibilities and unnecessarily bloats an already massive tree.
Modern Ukraine is not the same as pre-2020 Ukraine.
There are many unique Ukrainian variants now that won’t be considered for development or added to, if it becomes a subtree under USSR. At this point, Ukraine arguably has more unique content than Israel.
On top of that, adding Ukraine to the USSR would hijack development space and priority from the huge number of Soviet prototypes that still haven’t been added. Those prototypes alone could easily form a standalone, Israel-sized tree.
For me, this isn’t about politics ~it’s about content density and game design. I want all historical vehicles to get a fair share of real estate in the tech tree, with enough breathing room to actually matter.
(it’d be real pity if we see that, we’re already getting exact same copy vehicle twice or thrice in the same nation’s tree but not of all the unique battlefield modded variants of the Ukrainian vehicles.)
Upgraded ZSU-23-4M-A1 Shilka
Modern digital FCS, navigation systems and the original radar replaced with a new Rokach-AS
We should bloat the US tech tree with UK vehicles just cause. Tf? Or vice versa. No. Dumb ideas. Also off topic! Order must be brought.
M1A1 AIM? Or?
M1A1 SA is the tank
Aussie M1A1 AIM.
Recently 49 of 'em were transferred to Ukraine from the land down under.
Transfer of Eurocopter Tiger ARH is also being considered, hence the pic I posted on Dec 5.
It wasn’t, it was what I said :]
M1A1AIM-BV
Completely engulfed in K-1 ERAs (even T-64BV style turret cheeks) and folding cope cage
compared to M1A1SA-Ukr
Hoping there’s a K1 bingo sheet for the different AFU armoured vehicle types
Most survivable War Thunder Abrams lmao, that’s awesome
They still dont dare to mount anything more on the Chally 2s
One day I hope (or we get a sequel to the AB-13 inheriting part of a Chally 2)
It really saddens me to see this be worded like this as if pre 2020 Ukraine has nothing to offer. I know this wasnt meant this way but it’s rather poor way to word it.
All those T-64 mods, BMP-1 modernizations, BTR-4’s and T-84 line are something to actually wait Ukraine TT in game for.
In all honesty Gaijin will see all the copy paste slop from NATO it can add and will proceed to make Ukraine just Israel but with even less unique stuff.
Very similar situation to Finland, they will just add shit they can copy paste into Ukraine TT and proceed to release it like T-64BV thats already in game, T-72A, Leo2A4/2A6 and same BM Oplot
Instead of earlier variants of BM Oplots or T-84’s or anything else that’s actually unique to Ukraine.
With how updates have been I see no reason to be hopeful for Gaijin
hmm … yea maybe it wasn’t worded the best
but judging by the way people have been commenting here —and by the volume of comments opposing the addition of trees over the past two years ~you can’t expect the literature to be accurate every time (countering claims such as “Ukraine has/had nothing unique” or “never made anything unique of its own”)
Interesting to see how much vehicles from other nations Ukraine operates
BMP-1 Duplet
2x 30mm ZTM-2 + 4x Barrier ATGM launchers.
