I do not personally like this re-envisioned UA tech-tree.
General comments:
The new layout bugs me! It should be as it was >:(
Heavy → Medium → Light → TD → AA
I still don’t see any point for much focus on Western Vehicles - especially considering the fact that they have proven to be a point of contention in this suggestion’s discussion.
In my opinion, they also work to contradict the argument of the UA techtree not being copy-paste.
We have them in game, they aren’t all needed for competitiveness, and overall (slightly) dilute the concentration of actual Ukrainian vehicles in the Ukrainian techtree.
I understand an M2A2 ODS, as a noteworthy, and effective (BUSK kit with BRAT ERA) IFV we dont currently have - But a fully standard Leopard 2A6, a fully standard Leopard 1A5?
(IV)
I dont see why the BRDM-2 2A14 was removed as a Georgian premium - and replaced with the BTR-80 Joker in rank V
The Joker serves as a heavier, less capable, (per mobility, IMO), larger light-vehicle with a lighter main armament and a difficult to use/aim SPG-9 gun system.
I fully understand such a functional & effective SPG style system exists in game, but I simply fear the Soviet/Post-Soviet curse of lacking gun depression for the only really useful weaponry on the vehicle besides the other disadvantages of the BTR-80 chassis.
(V)
The only concern I have with this rank was voiced - the BTR-80 Joker replacing the BRDM-2 2A14.
(VI)
I dont see the need for the BMP-3 within the tech-tree line, considering it wont be serving with the same advantages as the Soviet BMP-3 we currently have.
The Sodema thermal imager it uses was not included until the 2010s, and as such the UA one would lack it, one of the major advantages it possesses over any light vehicles UA can already have.
I do appreciate the foldering of the T-55AM. Thank you!
I voiced my concerns with the Leopard 1A5 (DK) within the general comments section - as a standard Leopard 1 tank, similar to what we have in game, it serves little purpose within the techtree and dilutes the focus.
I’m not saying it should be replaced with the T-72A, but I wouldn’t be opposed to that if it was. Although this might make the rank very, very large.
I personally do not see the need for the T-64B1 if it is Object 437. As far as I can tell, it is just a T-64B without a laser rangefinder and the ability to fire GL-ATGMs.
I believe that it only makes the rank larger and grindier, with little purpose.
The addition of the foldered T-64BV zr. 2022 is very much appreciated as further love to indigenous, modern UA vehicles!
I understand the replacement of the BTR-3E CPWS-30 with the BTR-3E Fire Support Vehicle as it much better suits the TD role with the new cannon, but I dont understand the complete removal of the BTR-3E CPWS-30mm entirely.
I vote to replace the SBA Novator “Amulet” Premium with the BTR-3E CPWS 30, as the Novator is a very very light, modern MRAP vehicle with little to no protection.
Realistically, coaxial light machine guns are capable of destroying the Novator despite the claimed protection and I just personally dont see it fitting correctly - it’s a new class of vehicle we haven’t seen, with a modern and capable weapons system at a low BR, fighting M48s and T55s!
The BTR-3E CPWS wouldnt be a great improvement on this time-warping thing, but hey.
I know, realistic vehicle eras has already been destroyed, but I don’t see why we should damage it more.
This is just me of course, my opinion, with little basis in game balance.
And the BTR-3E as an accessible, easy to use & effective premium vehicle would feature modern thermal sights, fitting with the current BR situation (thank you BMD-4, BMP-3, etc) and a great introduction to the Ukrainian tech-tree for new players.
A wonderful first look at the backbone of modern UA APCs, and a (IMO) UA playstyle - “ratting” due to lack of newly produced MBTs/Other vehicles which sit on the cutting edge such as Leopards, T80s, Abrams’.
(VII)
The T-62AGM could certainly be a viable vehicle competitive for it’s battle rating, however it would be dependent on the ERA used and the Armament/FCS adopted. Love to see it!
I dont agree with the introduction of the Otaman-3 IFV as a premium - from your standalone suggestion on it, it would be a capable IFV with a good amount of mobility, but I just believe that the BTR-4MV1 would serve this purpose better. I dont know, it’s more authentically Ukrainian, more realistic as a vehicle, I like it more. Just my opinion and not based at all on which vehicle would perform better.
But I think it should be noted that most nations in game have only 3 premiums at a similar tier.
As such, I think the Otaman-3 and Kevlar-E should be removed for now and the BTR-MV1 placed as the premium to work with 2 MBTs, the T-72 SIM-1, and the T-64E perhaps.
(VIII)
I understand the unique focus on troop-carrying MBTs at the end of the line with the Object 488 and BTMP-84, but I don’t believe that the T-72MP should have been replaced into the Squadron vehicle area for this change.
The T-72MP is one of the most powerful T-72 modifications available, and shouldn’t be reserved as a squadron vehicle instead of topping off the line. I understand the Obj 488, BTMP-84 & T-72MP share similar engines and possibly armour, but it should finish, or be close to finishing the T-72 line of the tree.
The addition of the Tor-M AA is a great idea, allowing for variation if nothing else. Although I am sure there are differences between the platforms which would lead to one being used over the other in certain situations.
The Azovets is an interesting vehicle, however I think it would be a bit useless, really. It might not even be added due… political reasons, but i’m not sure what could replace it.
Love the work as always, more than I could ever do. Keep it up and I hope this techtree grows to be the best it can, with the most popular support it can get.
Edit : I tried to be pretty clear, concise and understandable, but I just, just, might be a bit dull! So please feel free to ask for clarification
