Seems like a rather poor excuse. Though I’m for neither of the former for the same reason that they make no sense. Pre-fall of USSR Ukraine is already in the TT though and that actually does.
Why is it?
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The fact that Russia has plenty of domestic equipment to fill what Ukraine would fill. Also the fact that Ukraine has a lot of unique things that wouldn’t all fit into Russia without some major UI changes.
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I just think the USSR doesn’t need a sub tree, same with the USA not needing South Korea. (I would go further and say Germany, UK and France don’t need subtrees either).
Even if that happens, the current 3 per line and rank limit would make it harder to fit Ukrainian vehicles while also snubbing domestic Soviet/Russian ones.
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I would argue they don’t have enough unique things and it could be easily fitted in, but you misunderstood my logic. These 2 countries are at war. Adding 2 nations at war together is dumbfounded.
I get what you’re saying but two completely different geopolitical events and almost watering it down to fit the phrase. While the Korea’s are technically at war, the Korean Armistice Agreement has been in effect since the early 50’s with no hot war since. Ukraine and Russia are actively in brutal conflict. There’s also the on and off goal of the Korea’s to ‘reunify’.
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Ahem ROC/PRC China and S/N Korea cough cough
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Germany really needed better air options. Our best CAS was F-4F ICE and Su-22.
Then came the EF-2000 which end like the only high end aircraft.
Now at least we have Hornet with 4 agm65
This doesn’t really refute my point. They have been at war and there have been many near escalations ever since. Also NK announced in 2024 that they do not want peaceful reunification, period. I don’t see any reason they should be fighting together.
Was a bad decision. Vietnam/NK could easily fill the place, which would even make sense.
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It does because they haven’t actively been in a hot war unlike Ukraine and Russia. Near escalation is not war. It’s not the same comparison. Also the policy of reunification has always cycled from being a thing to not being a thing.
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And when the war stops? Is it justified to add Ukraine to USSR then?
I can agree partially, Air did need more options however the Swiss ground and coastal will most likely be neglected. If there was some subtree with lots of late aircraft and few ground/naval units then I would be more comfortable with it.
UK and France absolutely don’t need India, South Africa or Benelux and now it just harms both the main and subtrees.
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I don’t know to be honest, a lot has changed considering the type of equipment Ukraine uses being shifted to Western-derived and how things unfold. Only time will tell.
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the camo looks so nice but i dont know something feels out of place
You can brute-force Ukraine into the USSR tree if you really want to.
But doing so cripples a lot of possibilities and unnecessarily bloats an already massive tree.
Modern Ukraine is not the same as pre-2020 Ukraine.
There are many unique Ukrainian variants now that won’t be considered for development or added to, if it becomes a subtree under USSR. At this point, Ukraine arguably has more unique content than Israel.
On top of that, adding Ukraine to the USSR would hijack development space and priority from the huge number of Soviet prototypes that still haven’t been added. Those prototypes alone could easily form a standalone, Israel-sized tree.
For me, this isn’t about politics ~it’s about content density and game design. I want all historical vehicles to get a fair share of real estate in the tech tree, with enough breathing room to actually matter.
(it’d be real pity if we see that, we’re already getting exact same copy vehicle twice or thrice in the same nation’s tree but not of all the unique battlefield modded variants of the Ukrainian vehicles.)
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Upgraded ZSU-23-4M-A1 Shilka
Modern digital FCS, navigation systems and the original radar replaced with a new Rokach-AS
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We should bloat the US tech tree with UK vehicles just cause. Tf? Or vice versa. No. Dumb ideas. Also off topic! Order must be brought.
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M1A1 AIM? Or?