Side note on 6TD engines: I know these were developed de-jure in Ukrainain SSR in 1970s, but de-facto modern Chinese/Pakistani tanks use Ukrainain-produced ones, not Ukrainian SSR.
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Any that Ukraine designed and produced?
There are Antonov planes, but they are either hard to include to current gameplay and/or designed in Ukrainian SSR. Also, I see what you were/are trying to do. He just replied to say there are Ukrainian planes that were modified, not necessarily produced/designed.
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I believe you misunderstood what I meant, I’m aware there’s little representation of these nations, I’m not talking about how Gaijin decided to just add Russian stuff to the current tree which is completely ridiculous. It should already have these other countries.
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I am also not talking about representation of other nations specifically. What I meant was if the tree is both Russian and Ukrainian, where is Ukrainian stuff, and I mean clearly Ukrainian? Not via looking for it in Wikipedia, for a few specific parts, but in-game, where it can state it is indeed Ukrainian vehicle, used by Ukraine (or at least Ukrainian SSR, even though it would be wrong to state such a country operator), and not just colectively “Soviet”? Even if we exclude Ukraine from “Soviet equation”, where is the rest? So saying the tree is just as much Russian as it is Ukrainian is false, and the wall of text is just an explanation why I think so.
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Just to clarify: I was only referring to this bit. I agree on the rest of the comment, but not this part.
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I was speaking on that fact that Ukraine was indeed apart of the Soviet equation and had as much to do with it.
I’m aware there’s no post-Soviet Ukrainian vehicles yet.
Spoiler
(I think of most stuff from a historical perspective which is probably a mistake on my part.)
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Yes that is the company now I remember, there was a combat variant of some sort wasnt there?
I can only remember the Soviet era An-2 and An-72P being combat capable though I’m probably missing something.
Otherwise the rest are transport or civilian.
Unless we count the An-40 /j
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They offer only transport planes…
Are you sure? So how do you explain Leopard 2 PL (a real vehicle in the game that was placed in the German tech tree)? Based on Gaijin’s idea of the Thai Air Force joining Japan, I believe Ukraine should join SOV. It should be noted that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a whole that includes 16 autonomous republics, and they should not be divided. The Soviet Ukrainian Socialist Republic is the second in command among them, and it should be integrated into the SOV tech tree. Even after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, it is still a member of the Commonwealth of Independent States, so why make it a separate system and increase the burden on players? And a large number of vehicles have already been included in the SOV technology tree today. SOV is a huge war machine, but this does not affect the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic from producing ammunition and weapons for this huge war machine
The UK tree has more Polish vehicles
Besides we’ve seen nations become independent despite being placed in others (Italy,France, Israel and Sweden). Also despite having 1 vehicle in Germany, South Africa is a UK subtree.
I thought Ukraine stopped participating in 2018?
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Poland is not a part of Germany though, the Leopard 2PL is a squadron vehicle, a German Leopard modified in Poland, same with the 2a4M, but guess what, none of these nations fall under Germany as they have other vehicles in other tech tree’s, it’s been confirmed by Gaijin them selves that Poland is not a sub tree to Germany. Ukraine could also go to an EE tech tree, doesn’t have to be SOV.
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You mean, designed by Rheinmetall and modification built in Poland…
Not completely designed by Rheinmetall, designed in co-operation with PGZ, modification is carried out in Poland yes
An-72P is post Soviet, but, yes.
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Didn’t realise, my bad. I’ve corrected it now
It’s alright man, doesn’t bother me.
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That’s a lie, you had to at least google it before writing.
Ukraine was one of the founding states of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in 1991, but it never ratified the CIS Charter and therefore was not a full member. After 2014, following Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Ukraine officially stopped participating in CIS activities and in 2018 began withdrawing from remaining agreements.
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