Ukraine Ground Forces Tree

Well the Baltic naval forces are easy as (ifrc) there are two gunboats (viesturs class minesweepers and the LKL partizanas) while the EML Trom can act as a fast gunboat.

(If subs are added the the ronnis and valek class subs could also be added)

Ground is a bit harder as barring the vilkas and scimitars with spikes, the other viable vehicles (Landversk L 181, M27/28 and Vickers 1937) are all low tier, which PL/CZ/SL can all cover.

I’m unsure about the situation in low tier air so I will just list the Baltic aircraft:
Vef I16
Vef JDA 10M
Cukurs Cbis/C6
Anbo 41
Pn-3

It is a shame with the limitations, but even if the Baltics cannot get into a tree like this, at least most vehicles can be given to other nations (UK and France helped with some of these vehicles as an example)

@THEPolishThunder @Savage-SRC
It’s a trial based on the long-term leak list. Seeing what I can do with it.


So far with what I’ve made, it’s looking like the USSR/USA/Germany trees in term of tech tree structure. Still able to retain the 3 vehicles per rank/line, not killing players with grinding. I’ve already done all 8 ranks, now it’s just filling in the gaps. It actually doesn’t look to bad tbh, but there’s a few things that bug me. Also 5-lines is plenty with all the nations.

As for standalone CZ/SK or standalone Poland, it doesn’t work. I’ve tried multiple times already in the course of 4 years in any way I could realistically make it work because I want to see them work. It’s thinner than Israel in some parts or even lacks a Rank which isn’t sustainable for growth especially profit which would drive development. That’s just the ground tree, without a comparable filled air tree there’s no point. The standalone trees that are out need reworking of some vehicles BR/Rank. They’re either put too high or too low which if corrected, leave Ranks blank. My Visegrad Tree suffers from some similar issues which I have to iron out. If you want to look at somewhat of what an independent tree would look like for Poland, CZ/SK, etc. nations, look at my Visegrad suggestion and remove the other nations from it. The Visegrad suggestion was my answer to try and get them in-game sustainably/fairly.

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This is why Poland and Czeckoslovakia should be put together as a tech tree, low tier would still be thin though, this is why Hungary was needed but Gaijin decided to do what gaijin does best and give it to Italy, I doubt that a nation like Ukraine will be able to fill in the low tier gaps like Hungary could.

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Hungary 100% should’ve been a part of PL/CZ/SK I agree. One thing that’s nice is that with Ukraine and the Baltics, technically we have the capacity to close some of the gaps utilizing Soviet technology found with them and not with Warsaw Nations though, I’m not going to saturate the low ranks of the tree with it. I’m going to balance it out. Just seeing how things play out.

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Honestly I could see Romania helping low tier as well.

Too bad gajin thought Italy needed more even more nations (even though it has Hungary and some elements from Spain, Portugal and Turkey)

Romania is locked away along with Hungary, they’re minor axis nations that “support” Italy according to Gaijin

Yep, I still think it’s ridiculous as Italy has still got a huge batch of domestic options.

Romania and Hungary both have the capacity to have one full line of vehicles as a sub-tree so having them the way they are is a bit rough. Romania should’ve been the dedicated sub-tree with Hungary as part of a Visegrad Tree or as a sub-tree to Poland.

…but anyways stay tuned for the tree. Don’t expect it to drop right away, still need to build more for it and make a suggestion out of it (most likely).

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Hope everything goes well!

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and it’s still baffling that Italy’s in-service M60 was put as premium by Gaijin

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Watch as they put a Turkish M60 as a TT vehicle 🫠

in Israel TT?

I ment Italy as Turkey has vehicles within Italy already (I do believe Israel or an independent tree would be a better destination).

Point is that gajin really can’t be trusted when left in charge of subtree designs.

I’d love to see Ukraine included in War Thunder at some point

it has a fascinating military history and a lot of unique vehicle designs that could add real depth to the game. From Cold War-era modifications to modern innovations like the T-84, there’s definitely enough material for an engaging tech tree.

That said, I can see why it might be difficult right now.

War Thunder typically steers clear of actively reflecting ongoing conflicts, and with the current situation, adding Ukraine could be seen as more than just a gameplay decision it could have wider implications. While the game does include modern vehicles, it tends to focus on historical military advancements rather than factions still deeply involved in conflict.

I still hope that at some point, Ukraine can be introduced in a way that respects both its military legacy and the realities of the present.

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Officially Raven Short Range Air Defence System

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BMP-1LB, the MT-LBu w/ Parus Combat Module

  • There’s some distortion around the farthest wheel on the left due to AI removing crew members. The vehicle is in full working order.
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new stuff just dropped

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Early Ukr T-80UD with Kontakt-1s

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On the topic of mlrs (and I apologize if I bring up vehicles already brought up by others)
Bastion_MLRS,_Kyiv_2021,_10
Bastion-2 (this apparently has storage for 40 additional rockets than the Bastion-1)
Verba_MRLS_2019
Verba

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