Estimated length by image isnt even the 44U, and all of these complete rounds on images are just mock ups. The only which isnt is on image with it being on table shown to the military.
44U would be like 3BM42 for Ukraine, as Ukraine lacked even 3BM42 (not enough meaning)
44U1 never came out of mock up IIRC.
The problem is is that we don’t know any of that for sure. Need sources to confirm it but all we have is just forums. There’s been talk of testing, other talk of just a mock up. Need government or defense industry sources to confirm which won’t happen.
You’re right about the length pic. I’m removing it. Just grabbed it from the old forum
3bm42m mango 2 is more real than 3bm44u and u1
You can calculate the length of BM44U2
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Does anyone have anymore information on the “MOP-4K FSV (Fire Support Vehicle)” based on the BTR-4 Chassis?
So far I have found it mentioned on Wikipedia, Army Recognition, and more sites.
Exact details beyond a BTR-4 Sporting a 120mm are unavailable.
Some silhouettes appear if you search it up :
Could be a predecessor or successor to the BTR-3E FSV, depending on its specifications and predicted performance
Someone should really do a BTR-3 and BTR-4 Megathread! Someone with more talent than me
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Perhaps a good thing that it doesn’t seem like it was made.
In these renditions it seems to lack any advanced sights
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Only data from their old site: KMDB - BTR-4 Armoured Personnel Carrier
Weight of vehicle with anti-bullet protection t 21+3%
Gun 1 x 120 mm
Amunition rds 40
Machine gun 1 x 12.7 mm
Amunition rds 450
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Pretty sure the project was cut do to budgetary constraints. The industry is now flowing with a lot of money so I’m curious what they might go and develop or back to. Hopefully more BTR-4, BTR-3, (and there variants) and Oplot’s. Oplot with full production 120mm’s would be sick.
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Only the t80bvm is good in your list
If only it had a actual reverse speed and better ERA coverage.
Oplot: Laughs in reverse speed
if it had the t80u turret, it would straight up be better in almost every way than the t90m
T-90M has arguably the best armor in the tree, if not the best armour in the game.
The T-80BVM is a good balance between armour and mobility, but lacks spall liners! How can it compete and be the only good tank on the list?
The T-84 is an improved T-80BVM. On-par ERA, if not better, with better coverage of said ERA, better transmission and therefore forward and reverse mobility, and the same thermal sights and so forth. The round may be a downgrade, depending on whether of not BM44U is added.
Although it has modern, capable, GL-ATGMs.
T-64BMs also feature Nozh and Duplet armour, on par with, or surpassing Kontakt 5 and Relikt respectively. New mobility with a 1200HP engine, with thermal imaging systems aswell.
Unfortunately, they seem to lack an upgraded transmission for acceptable reverse speeds.
GL-ATGMs again.
The T-64BV zr, T-80BV zr, T-73B3, T-90A, T-80U are all back-up tanks to make a complete lineup.
Although the T-64BVs, T-80BVs feature thermal sights, and modern GL-ATGMs.
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Punching bag, that or it dies in 1 shot. It’s reload is the worst factor from my experience with it.
Relikt acts like spall liners 80% of the time for whatever reason, (ERA in general does this in game, relikt is just the most consistent)
It’s reverse will be the only true advantage in game. It’s going to be somewhat like the china tanks but probably better.
Only those will be better than the russian counterpart due to the fact they were in active service for ever.
Arguably the t64bv in game is basically a t90m at a better br, that thing does NOT die at all, bombs, bullpups and mavericks cant kill it most of the time. I think there is a bug report about it having spall liners too (God forbid)
T-64BV zr 2017 with some interesting unlockable camouflage. Gaijin, pls
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The T-84 is still an improved T-80UD…The mobility of the T-80BVM is better due to the lower weight of the tank and a more powerful engine (1250 hp)…Also, the T-80BVM has a better 2A46M-4 cannon…On the T-84, the unlicensed version 2A46M-1, which cannot use long projectiles…
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No matter the backlash I will get for this. DO NOT MAKE ANOTHER COPY PASTE TECH TREE BRUH, 90% of this is just CtrlC+CtrlV.
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@Yontzee can you count how many vehicles in the tech tree are “copy paste” and then tell me how many are unique. Then I’ll decide wether it’s “copy paste tree” or not. Because this whole “copy paste” argument is (I feel) not working. Because it doesn’t
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The BVM is from the base T-80 models, too.
What is the difference between Ukrainian modernisations of T-Series tanks and Russian ones which makes Ukrainian ones “just T-80s”, for example, but Russian ones “something else”?
Ukrainian tanks, the better ones, same as the BVM being one of the better Russian Federation tanks, would have the same practical mobility as the BVM. Why you brought this up, I dont know.
Ukraine currently only has BM42
Any designs for BM44, or so, I think would have taken into account the gun system available. If an upgraded cannon was unfeasible in the first place, which I would doubt
Not to say that GL-ATGMs cannot partially make up for the lack of modern APFSDS, atleast
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I cannot argue with anecdotal evidence, so fair point I suppose
Great, and so it will be the same with Nozh and Duplet. Particularly Duplet being stacked ERA.
And so a T-84 would be as capable, if not more capable, than current vehicles in game through noticeable advantages. By the same token, not copy paste.
Im not sure what you mean by this. Everyone gets vehicles, in service or not. 2S38 time!
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