Ukraine Ground Forces Tree

[Kingtiez-live]

If the UA did get added to the USSR, I don’t expect every single vehicle to get added, just some of the major modifications.

[HaphazardDrip94]

Here’s how I see it. It’s “too small” to be an independent tree. But too big to be a sub tree. If this was an independent tree. Could gaijin allow having an only ground tree? Because Ukraine’s air tree is slim to none.

[Kingtiez-live]

There’s other issues with it, I have no idea how Gaijin would work the air tree and navy portion.

[HIMARS_Enjoyer]

Also into MBT list:
Serial vehicles:
T-64BVK zr.2021 (bit different from both T-64 you listed)
T-72AMT (there`s also a different version)

Non-serial/experimental vehicles
Early T-84 (Object 478 DU2) , which was one of the contestants for Greek MBT contract
Object 478 DU5 (Along with T-84-120 was a contestant for Turkish MBT contract)
Object 478 DU7 (contestant for malaysian MBT)
Object 478BEM-1(for the US with Drozd-1 Hard-kill APS)
Object 488 (Ukrainian Merkava)

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@HIMARS_Enjoyer

Object 488 (Ukrainian Merkava)

Particularly interesting vehicle probably with increased survivability

[RadHeadCrab]

Probably won’t happen in foreseeable future sadly

[Mongaroth33]

its no ukrainian the t-80ud was a soviet tank produced and designed for soviet army it was used by russia after collapse aswell in smaller numbers but it was

[Sarmatiko]

Ukrainian Leopard 2A6 with additional protective screens

[Tiijayh]

Has already been posted in the discussion. Which you’d know about if you actually read the suggestion in detail instead of trolling.

[HaphazardDrip94]

Found this guy on YouTube, don’t know if anyone posted his channel but there is some good info he presents on Ukrainian tanks
https://www.youtube.com/@Tankolog_Original/videos

[Vladimir_Great]

Adding more trees and removing country matching was the biggest mistake

[Sarmatiko]

Ukrainian M-55S with additional protection modifications in 5th Tank Brigade

[JAPANESESAMURAI]

I would love to see some Ukrainian tanks out on the battle field.Ukraine is my favorite country and their tanks are awesome

[Blastertitan]

After hard work…

[Sarmatiko]

Ukrainian T-90A with additional protection (Relikt+Kontakt 1).
Panorama image taken from the new video where this tank rescued another trophy T-90A from the mud with the help of BTS-4 recovery vehicle.

[Sarmatiko]

T-80BVK serving in 93rd Brigade modified with protection package from T-72B3 obr. 2016 (turret and sides) and Kontakt-1 (front).

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@Sarmatiko

It was made in Kharkiv, Ukraine.

A state of the SSSR.

@Sarmatiko

Used Kharkiv-made engine 6TD.

Produced in the SSSR

@Sarmatiko

As soon as SSSR collapsed, Russia couldn’t maintain their T-80UD park and scrapped all their UD tanks before 1995. That’s less than a decade in service.

There was no purpose in keeping them. The entire point of the T-80UD was to expedite production to other union states to increase the production rate of the vehicle itself. The engine of the T-80UD was only built in Ukraine, and the powerpack was functionally and logistically inferior to that of the GTD-1000TF and its coupled transmission.

@Sarmatiko

That’s basically all you need to know about “made in USSR” fantasy.

It… It was made in the SSSR. Plain and simple.
The hulls were produced in the RFSFR, while differing variations of the turret were produced in both the RFSFSR and the U’SSR.

@Sarmatiko

If there was some homogeneous “soviet tech” in reality, russia wouldn’t have such issues with 5TDF and 6TD production and maintenance.

Nobody’s claiming homogenous tech. The entire point of the T-80UD was to produce an equal alternative to the T-80U, making use of the higher hull production capacity of the Kirov plant, while making up for the downsides and low production of the GTD series.

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@Mahiwew

I believe this is the Soviet T-80UD from before the collapse, not the post-collapse Ukrainian one.

As far as I know they’re the same, being based on the 1985 T-80U.

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@Sarmatiko

Personally, I think it’s not that bad and adding T-80UD as a premium (if such addition was unavoidable) to USSR tree was the best possible solution:

1. It marks the rarity of this vehicle and its limited use in USSR/Russia. While tank was manufactured in Ukrainian SSR (and should belong to Ukraine’s TT), most tanks were delivered to RSFSR territory, where they participated in some historical events (like shooting at “White house” in 1993 events) and then all of those new tanks (hundreds of them) in RF were scrapped after less than a decade of service due to inability of RF to maintain them.
2. Current addition doesn’t automatically excludes T-80UD from future Ukraine (one and only manufacturer) and Pakistan (main operator) Tech Trees. It will all happen eventually.

Sweden gets a T-80U that’s functionally identical, and it’s a squadron vehicle. I don’t see why a premium would exclude it from any other tech tree that may come

[Raiden_Black]

Here’s the first unique T-80UD variant created by Ukraine, post Soviet break up :

Ukraine Ground Forces Tree

Another unique T-80UD is the one bought by Pakistan from Ukraine. Object 478BE Its an improved model with welded turret and most probably Buran-Catherine-E thermal imaging sight With 1000hp 6TD-1 diesel engine but some claim, that some of those T-80UDs were upgraded to the 1200hp 6TD-2E engine. Can be added to the Chinese TT as premium or when/if Pakistan sub tree gets added there. https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/3X/6/b/6bbdbbb591788efda80f7b1bac9fb045f90aca99.jpeg https:/…

with the welded turret, it also serves as the starting point of the T-84 program