What’s the point of separating them at that point?
That was my point to begin with man. Sorry if I didn’t express that clearly.
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If a country has enough of such unique products it is worthwhile to have a grander addition than just having a couple of vehicles shoved somewhere randomly.
I find this to be the case for UA
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Since there was a USSR flag on it and since it was used in limited numbers there ( that hopefully doesn’t make it so we don’t see the actual ukraine tree) but u still malded, i decided to fix it for you so you can mald some more ( troll emoji)
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Luckily I have a list for this, of course, that’s not why I created it, but if you really need it. 🤷♂️
As you wish I will exclude all western and soviet vehicles that are not modernized or made in Ukraine.
MBT
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BM Oplot-M (2009, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BM Oplot-T (2016, Made in 🇺🇦 for 🇹🇭) - Suggested
BMT-72 (2002, Made in 🇺🇦)
BVMP-84 (2000, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-55-64 (2007, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-55AGM (2003, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-62AGM (2003, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-64BM ‘Bulat’ (2002, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-64BM1M (2014, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
T-64BM2 ‘Bulat’ (2021, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
T-64BV zr. 2017 (2017, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
T-64BV zr. 2022 (2022, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-64E (2011, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-72-120 (1999, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-72AG (1997, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-72AMT (2021, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
T-72AV zr. 2021 (2021, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-72E (2009, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-72MP (1998, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-72UA1 (2011, Made in 🇺🇦)
T-80BV zr. 2018 (2018, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
T-84-120 ‘Yatagan’ (2000, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
T-84U Oplot (1999, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
IFV
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BMP-1TS (2021, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BMP-1U (2001, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BMP-1UM (2015, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BMP-1UMD (2016, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BMP-2 (Douplet)
BMPT Azovets (2015, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BMPT Strazh (2017, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BMPT-64
BMPV-64
BTR-3DA (2017, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BTR-3E
BTR-3E CPWS-30
BTR-3E CSE 90LP
BTR-3E1 (2007, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BTR-3U (2000, Made in 🇺🇦)
BTR-4A
BTR-4B
BTR-4E
BTR-4E1
BTR-4M
BTR-4MV
BTR-4MV1 (2017, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
BTR-70DI
BTR-80UM
BTR-94 (1999, Made in 🇺🇦)
FV101 Scorpion (Kastet) (2016, Made in 🇺🇦 for 🇯🇴)
Kevlar-E (2017, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
MT-LB-T-23-2 (2015, made in 🇺🇦)
MT-LBR6 (2000s, Made in 🇺🇦)
MT-LBR7 (2000s, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
MT-LBSh (2006, Made in 🇺🇦)
Otaman (2A28)
Otaman (2S1)
Otaman-3 (2019, Made in 🇺🇦) - Suggested
Otaman-3 (BM-3M)
Varan
and there are even more that I might have forgotten about.
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Just imagine all those in the Soviet tree 😳💀
No thanks, that tree is already bloated enough
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Because there are already 5 lines with vehicles*
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Excuse me but when was Poland a part of USSR? lol If you think that Warsaw Pact = part of USSR then you’re crazy
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Poland has nothing to do with Germany. It could stand on it’s own as a tech tree.
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Please name all Israeli in-game vehicles that are not of Soviet or NATO Origin.
Please name all Chinese in-game vehicles that are not of Soviet or NATO Origin.
Please name all Hungarian in-game vehicles not of Soviet or NATO Origin.
Now let’s take this game even further ; since seemingly everything allowed in a tech-tree has to be both designed and built by the operator nation as an independent state (sorry T-64, moreso, sorry Morozov and KMDB)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from France.
(oops! sorry France, no American lend-lease, or trophy vehicles!)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from Italy.
(oops! Sorry Italy, no German nor American vehicles in your lower ranks!)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from Germany
(oops! sorry Germany, no full high-tier lineups until post 1990/1991 because you were divided after WW2!)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from Japan.
(oops! Multiple vehicles with no replacement removed from Japan which already lacks lineups and a fleshed-out tech-tree!)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from China.
(oops! entire tree gone!)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from Sweden.
(oops! All top-tier MBTs gone! Almost half of the premiums, the only squadron vehicle removed and gaping holes left in the tree!)
Please remove all Soviet or NATO Origin vehicles from Israel.
(oops! tech-tree eviscerated until the top-tier!)
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If the UA did get added to the USSR, I don’t expect every single vehicle to get added, just some of the major modifications.
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Here’s how I see it. It’s “too small” to be an independent tree. But too big to be a sub tree. If this was an independent tree. Could gaijin allow having an only ground tree? Because Ukraine’s air tree is slim to none.
There’s other issues with it, I have no idea how Gaijin would work the air tree and navy portion.
Also into MBT list:
Serial vehicles:
T-64BVK zr.2021 (bit different from both T-64 you listed)
T-72AMT (there`s also a different version)
Non-serial/experimental vehicles
Early T-84 (Object 478 DU2) , which was one of the contestants for Greek MBT contract
Object 478 DU5 (Along with T-84-120 was a contestant for Turkish MBT contract)
Object 478 DU7 (contestant for malaysian MBT)
Object 478BEM-1(for the US with Drozd-1 Hard-kill APS)
Object 488 (Ukrainian Merkava)
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Particularly interesting vehicle probably with increased survivability
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Probably won’t happen in foreseeable future sadly
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its no ukrainian the t-80ud was a soviet tank produced and designed for soviet army it was used by russia after collapse aswell in smaller numbers but it was
Ukrainian Leopard 2A6 with additional protective screens
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Has already been posted in the discussion. Which you’d know about if you actually read the suggestion in detail instead of trolling.
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