why are forum messages disappearing again? Where are the last ~50 posts?
Most of them were offtopic.
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Ukrainian Oto Melara 155mm M109L howitzer with distinct decals (around 50 were provided by Italy in 2022)
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Olivia is a Gaijin partner with “leaks” to inspire hype and judge reactions, IMO.
But leaker, sure, and a good track record, no matter how those leaks are obtained
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A Ukrainian Leopard 2A6 of the 47th Mechanized Brigade outfitted with slat armour, rubber screens and a rear facing thermal camera for the driver.
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Ukraine Ex-Polish PT-91 Twardy MBTs with extra Era in Service with the 22nd Separate Mechanized Brigade.
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Welp
Old Ex-Polish Hibernyt anti-aircraft artillery system (ZU-23-2 + Star 266) in Ukrainian service.
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If you cannot reply with valid criticism, examples, logic or facts (how do you know what you have claimed?) then don’t reply
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because a tree with literaly everything wouldnt make sense and is game breaking? simple logic , it is valid critiscim, ukraine has many unique modification themself of old russian tanks that they specialy developed, there is no reason to include the donated equipment into the list
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For your original reply, you have not included evidence of your claims regarding the addition and it’s conditions, and now we are going off topic of what you replied to by going into donated vehicles. That has been discussed previously, and if you want to voice your own take on it, there was no need to reply to my message with it
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i have no problem with a pure ukraine tree, just leave any donated vehicles out of it, they dont “belong” to ukraine. I dont know what your opinion is on the matter (thread is 625 comments long by now), but fact is that people keep sending in donated equipment as suggestions into this thread, if you are in support of those donated vehicles, convince me why they should be added into this tree
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thats what u get false flaggers, thank staff for restoring
Guys… just take it easy!
No need to get combative or argumentative… everyones opinions count… even if you may not agree with it
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When the same users try to derail the thread into “we don’t need this tree and I hate it” over and over again, despite the overwhelming support from thread visitors reflected in the poll - that’s clearly un-constructive off-topic
Meanwhile posts with vehicles, like Mi-24 with Hydra armament simply disappear without a trace… (yeah there is no “Ukraine’s Helicopter TT” proposal thread)
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i never said we dont need an ukrainian tree, ukrain has plenty intresting developed vehicles like the developed T-84s, i am just saying it shouldnt be implemented in the way and form of including all the donated equipment which people keep suggesting into this thread. The ukraine tree doesnt need leopards, abrams, challegners , CV and the many more vehicles. It can shine with its own unique vehicles, in the future maybe with the KF 51 Panther if they realy end up procuring it once conflicts end
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We heard you previous couple of times when you called Ukrainian tree an abomination and baselessly claimed that “no one wants it”. Repeating the same mantra over and over won’t help you change the overwhelming support for the tree.
As for “western donations shouldn’t be included” claim there’s only one argument but it’s enough.
All donated and purchased tanks and other vehicles have been officially adopted by the AFU and are now part of Ukraine’s armed forces and actually battle proven. No amount of forum whining will change the current established Ukraine’s ground forces roster.
We are here to provide maximum amount of related information to the developers and it’s up to them if they want to include something to the final tree or not. It is better to have a wide range of possibilities than to have none.
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While I’d love the Ukrainian tree in the game I don’t exactly support the idea of adding all of the recently acquired donated western/russian vics.
Mostly because I think they have plenty of indigenous designs which would make the tree superbly unique and not just another nation with russian/western stuff.
Just an opinion if you will.
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