Do you guys think Gaijin will take this serious and add it? i dont know much about them but as far as i know they usually dont give a shi about their community since they didnt make repairs and fpe free in game. if they add this tech tree i will sure grind it, i really want to play the modernized m48 and m60 and M113 modifications also the Altay and those FNSS lights look cool
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Lastly, it had 700 thousand active Turkish players in 2022. This number is twice as much in War Thunder 2025 so it can be added
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Well I should’ve posted Leopard 1Ts too, a little late but hey.
Leopard 1T (Leopard 1A1)
Leopard 1T (1A3T1)
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If this happens, i won’t grind the Turkish tech tree because i can’t wait :D I will pruchase all of those vehicles including air tree. I am trying to reach Gaijin admins here; Guys i know you mates are adoring to money, so i am telling you all of the Turkish players will buy toptier premiums no matter it’s cost don’t worry, i can swear but i can’t prove it until you guys bring all those spectacular vehicles.
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Azerbaijan and Turkiye flagged BTR80As
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7.0 sub-Vehicle maybe we implent a Azo-Kazhak Sub-Tree Like britain with its African mix sub-Tree
BMC and Roketsan make their modernization on this green one is BMC sand color is ROKETSAN and Turkish Army chose both’s good sides such as Roketsan’s easy re fit era solution and BMC apc with sensor kits and that is you mentioned is about final production program
its done and its on production
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Eh we’ve scrapped Kazakh Sub-Branch since Kazakhstan went with Terrex 8x8 based ( which was not even part of tender) vehicle instead of Arma and likely Tulpar is out of picture. There is no need for Sub-Branch to include them into Tech Tree. Much of the vehicles which will be integrated into tree directly.
Only ROKETSAN’s solution were green lighted as emergency program for 81 tanks which later reduced to 40 tanks as Leopard 2A4T1; albeit BMC were awarded with Leopard modernisation there has not been any update and as far as I remember BMC’s deal were even before ROKETSAN’s, I doubt BMC is still in program.
I doubt that. Leopard 2A4T1 is the only solution accepted into service, later it is announced Leopard 2A4 included into TİYK Programme. Remaining 2A4 is likely to be the one @Flyexz posted with T1 Armor Package and ASELSAN sub-systems.
That being said, I actually would love to see Leopard 2A4 with T-Armor (Altay’s armor package), but from the looks of it, it will be T1. I expected remaining Leopards to be upgraded with state-owned firms without ant third part like M60T1.
Although we do not have exact information, this package seems to have:
- T1 Armor Package (Slightly Different)
- VOLKAN 200/120 Fire Control System
- AKKOR Active & Passive Protection System
- LİAS 400 Tank Laser Warning Receiver System
- GÖREN 100 or GÖREN 200 Driver’s Vision System
- KARTALGÖZÜ 200 Commander’s/Gunner’s Sight System
- YAMGÖZ 100 or YAMGÖZ 200 360° Situational Awareness System
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South Korea is more logical, at least the player base is large
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I would also add South Korea, as Turkey can produce the Altay (K2) and the T-155 Firtina (K9) from South Korea under license. These two Vehicles Are almost the Same but with slightly different optics and Systems
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These statements are wrong. Altay has elements from K2 such as the main cannon and armor scheme, other than that it is completely built by Otokar & BMC. Same goes for T-155 Fırtına, subsystems such as fire control system and the auto loader are from K9, other than that is again a domestic MKEK product.
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Wasn’t the Altay supposed to be the tank for the Turkish army? Why did a new variant appear? We were talking to some Turkish acquaintances and we thought that it could be the modernization for Chile as well, perhaps for both countries.
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altay amt k2 panther is similar but its armor structure is very different also k2 panther is 50 tons while altay is 65 tons
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That’s still the case, Altay procurement still continues but rather in slow fashion. Turkish Armed Forces is one of the biggest Leopard 2A4 for users, around 330 Leopard 2s in is service currently. 40 of them are in Leopard 2A4T1 configuration and rest in base model 2A4s. So it is only logical to bring them to moderns standard especially since the know-how is there.
Base Leopard 2A4s are showing their age as they’ve received zero upgrades during their service life and it become apparent in Syrian operations. Turkey has been planning to modernise its Leopard 2A4s since the procurement (see Leopard 2A4NG) and its finally becoming a reality.
Well it would be similar considering main sub-system contractor is ASELSAN for both projects. Phase I of Chilean Leopards are not planned to receive T1 Armor Package as far as we’ve seen, maybe it would be incorporated in Phase II. Also from what we’ve seen, Chilean Leopards are to receive different electro-optics, at least CITV is different.
That is not entirely true. Turkey indeed received technology transfer for both Altay and Fırtına, but they are far from being license produced vehicles. Both of the vehicles evolved from K2 and K9 but they are very much different, especially Altay. Altay is more of Europeanised version of K2 with indigenous systems; pretty much everything except for the power pack, this included important systems such as cannon, armor, electro-optics and fire control as well as “minor” parts such as Insulated Body Ammunition Rack, Tracks, Turret Drive System and Fuel and Hydraulic Pumps.
I would prefer a United Korean Korean Tech Tree to be honest. In a Sub-Tree you can have limited amount of vehicles thus you cannot really see the progress and evolution of unique vehicles. Instead of throwing lets say K2 to top tier, you could start from XK2 to its final form in proper tree.
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Yet again, its been quite a while since we’ve update the Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree but here we are with a brand new update but this time it’ll be a little different then earlier ones. Instead of
an updated Ground Forces Tech, this time we’ve come up with showcase of Turkish Defence Sector to show capabilities and flavour of possible Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree.
In this update we’ve covered armaments that are relevant in War Thunder such as tank cannons, machine-guns and automatic grande launchers. We’ve focused on indigenous products and some license products that has been part of the production for quite sometime and used extensively. So let’s get into the Weaponry Section of Turkish Defence Industry:
Turkish Defence Industry 
Weaponry
Cannons
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MKE 155mm L/39
MKE 155mm L/39 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 2384 kg
- Length: 6037 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 155mm
- Shell: 155mm (6.1 in), NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 945m/s with MOD 274 High-Explosive Extended Range (HE-ER) - Rate of Fire
∙ Normal Rate; 6 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙24 km with MOD 274 High-Explosive Extended Range (HE-ER)?
MKE 155mm L/52 PANTER
MKE 155mm L/52 PANTER Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 4176 kg
- Length: 8060 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 155mm
- Shell: 155mm (6.1 in), NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 945m/s with MOD 274 High-Explosive Extended Range (HE-ER) - Rate of Fire
∙Normal Rate; 4 Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Burst Rate; 3 Rounds in 15 Seconds
∙Sustained Rate; 2 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙18 km with M107 High-Explosive (HE)
∙23 km with M101 High-Explosive (HE)
∙30 km with M549 High-Explosive Rocket-Assisted
∙40 km with MOD 274 High-Explosive Extended Range (HE-ER)
MKE 155mm L/52 FIRTINA
MKE 155mm L/52 FIRTINA Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 4339 kg
- Length: 8095 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 155mm
- Shell: 155mm (6.1 in), NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 945m/s with MOD 274 High-Explosive Extended Range (HE-ER) - Rate of Fire
∙Normal Rate; 6 Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Burst Rate; 3 Rounds in 15 Seconds
∙Sustained Rate; 2 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙18 km with M107 High-Explosive (HE)
∙23 km with M101 High-Explosive (HE)
∙30 km with M549 High-Explosive Rocket-Assisted
∙40 km with MOD 274 High-Explosive Extended Range (HE-ER)
MKE 120mm L/33 THSS
MKE 120mm L/33 THSS Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 850 kg Only Barrel Weight, Complete Weight is not Revealed
- Length: 3800 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 120mm
- Shell:
∙ 120×570mm, NATO Standard
∙ 120mm (4.7 in), Smoothbore - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ Less Than 870m/s with MOD 300 High-Explosive (HE)
∙ More Than 400m/s with MOD 308 High-Explosive (HE) Smoothbore Mortar - Rate of Fire
∙Normal Rate; 6 Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Burst Rate; 3 Rounds in 15 Seconds
∙Sustained Rate; 2 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙2-3 km with MOD 300 High-Explosive (HE)
∙7-8 km with MOD 308 High-Explosive (HE)
MKE 120mm L/44
MKE 120mm L/44 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 3700 kg
- Length: 5812 mm
- Width: 640 mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 120mm
- Shell: 120×570mm, NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1705m/s with MOD 290 Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) - Maximum Firing Range
∙3000 m with Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS)
MKE 120mm L/55
MKE 120mm L/55 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 3103 kg
- Length: 6600 mm
- Width: 640 mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 120mm
- Shell: 120×570mm, NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1705m/s with MOD 290 Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) Stated
∙ 1786m/s with MOD 290 Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) Theoretical* - Maximum Firing Range
∙3000 m with Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS)
*1705m/s Figure Seems to be for L/44, In Theory L/55 Might Have Higher Velocity
MKE/Watervliet M68T1 105mm L/52
MKE M68T1 105mm L/52 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 1200 kg
- Length: 5346 mm
- Width: 640 mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 105mm
- Shell: 105×617mm, NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 683m/s with MOD 233 High-Explosive (HE)
∙ 1485m/s with C76A1(FP105) Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) - Maximum Firing Range
∙? m
MKE/ROKETSAN DGTS 105mm L/?
MKE/ROKETSAN DGTS 105mm L/? Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: ? kg
- Length: ? mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 105mm
- Shell: 105×617mm, NATO Standard
- Muzzle Velocity:
∙ ? m/s - Maximum Firing Range
∙? m
*It is not certain if DGTS is a whole new cannon or just M68T1 or some other M68 derivate. I’ve included here since MZK live fire demonstration video mention cannon as “105mm DGTS System”.
Auto Cannons
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MKE 35mm Revolver Cannon
MKE 35mm Revolver Cannon Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: ? kg
- Length: ? mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 35mm
- Shell: 35×228mm?
- Feed System:
∙ Linkless Dual-Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ ? m/s - Rate of Fire
∙200 rpm
∙1000 rpm
MKE/Oerlikon GDF-003B 35mm
MKE/Oerlikon GDF-003B 35mm Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 6700 kg
- Length: 7800 mm
- Width: 2260 mm
- Height: 2600 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 35mm
- Shell: 35×228mm
- Feed System:
∙ Dual-Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1,175 m/s - Rate of Fire
∙550 rpm per Barrel
MKE/ASELSAN GDF-003B Modernised 35mm
MKE/ASELSAN GDF-003B Modernised 35mm Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 6800 kg
- Length: 3150 mm Only Barrel Length
- Width: 2260 mm
- Height: 2600 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 35mm
- Shell: 35×228mm
- Feed System:
∙ Dual-Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1,020 m/s with ATOM 35 ABM
∙ 1,020 m/s with ATOM 35 IABM - Rate of Fire
∙550 rpm per Barrel
MKE/GIAT 25mm Auto Cannon ILGAZ/M811
MKE 25mm Auto Cannon ILGAZ Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 121 kg
- Length: 2130 mm
- Width: 345 mm
- Height: 370 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 25mm
- Shell: 25×137mm, NATO Standard
- Feed System:
∙ Dual-Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1360m/s - Rate of Fire
∙400 rpm
∙650 rpm
ASELSAN
ASELSAN MAKS T-35 35mm Auto-Cannon
MAKS T-35 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 220 kg
- Length: ? mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 35mm
- Shell: 35×228mm, NATO Standard
- Feed System:
∙ Linkless Dual-Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1180m/s - Rate of Fire
∙Single Shot
∙200 rpm
ASELSAN MAKS T-30 30mm Auto-Cannon
MAKS T-30 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 160 kg
- Length: ? mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 30mm
- Shell: 30×173mm, NATO Standard
- Feed System:
∙ Dual Link-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1080m/s - Rate of Fire
∙Single Shot
∙200 rpm
∙300 rpm
MAKS T-30H
MAKS T-30H Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 59 kg
- Length: ? mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 30mm
- Shell: 30×113mm
- Feed System:
∙ Linkless
∙ LinkedOptional - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 805m/s - Rate of Fire
∙Single Shot
∙200 rpm
∙300 rpm - Features
∙Ability to Use Airburst Ammunition
CANiK
CANiK/AEI Systems VENOM LR
VENOM LR Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 122 kg
- Length: 2044 mm
- Width: 315 mm
- Height: 310 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 30mm
- Shell: 30x113mm
- Feed System:
∙ Linkless Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 765-805m/s - Rate of Fire
∙Single Shot
∙200 rpm
∙300 rpm
∙1200 rpm
TR Mekatronik
TR Mekatronik 25mm Kara Topu
TR Mekatronik 25mm Kara Topu Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: ? kg
- Length: ? mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 25mm
- Shell: 25×137mm, NATO Standard
- Feed System:
∙ Chain-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 1200m/s - Rate of Fire
∙Single Shot
∙200 ± 25 rpm
Automatic Grenade Launchers
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MKE 40mm OBA Automatic Grenade Launcher
MKE 40mm OBA Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 33 kg
- Length: 1097 mm
- Width: 340 mm
- Height: 225 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 40mm
- Shell: 40×53mm
- Feed System:
∙ Linkless Dual-Feed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 242m/s Stated on MKE Catalogue
∙ 242m/s with MOD 78 High-Explosive (HE)
∙ 242m/s with MOD 100 Programmable Pre-Fragmented High-Explosive (PPHE)
∙ 245m/s with ATOM 40 Airburst Munition (ABM) - Rate of Fire
∙Burst Rate; 60 Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Sustained Rate; 40 Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Cyclic Rate; 325-375 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 2500 m
∙Effective Range; 1500 m
ASELSAN
MAKS OBA-40H
MAKS OBA-40H Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 18 kg
- Length: 965 mm
- Width: 273 mm
- Height: 220 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 40mm
- Shell: 40×53mm
- Feed System:
∙ Linkless
∙ LinkedOptional - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 242m/s - Rate of Fire
∙Single Shot
∙200 rpm
∙300 rpm
KALEKALIP
KAGL40
KAGL40 Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 35 kg
- Length: 1090 mm
- Width: 340 mm
- Height: 225 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 40mm
- Shell: 40×53mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 240m/s Stated on KALEKALIP Catalogue
∙ 245m/s with ATOM 40 Airburst Munition (ABM) - Rate of Fire
∙Burst Rate; ? Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Sustained Rate; ? Rounds in 60 Seconds
∙Cyclic Rate; 280-380 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 2000 m
∙Effective Range; 1500 m
Machine-Guns
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MKE MT12-QCB
MT12-QCB Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 38 kg
- Length: 1650 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 12.7mm
- Shell: 12.7x99mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 993m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 450-550 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 6.699 m
∙Effective Range; 1.828 m
PMT-76-57A Platform
PMT-76-57A Platform Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 12.5 kg
- Length: 1250 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: 280 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 840m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 650 - 950 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 3800 m
∙Effective Range; 850 m
PMT-76-57A Co-Axial
PMT-76-57A SELENOİT Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 12 kg
- Length: 1250 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: 280 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 840m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 650 - 950 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 3800 m
∙Effective Range; 850 m
MMT
MMT Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 8 kg
- Length: 1120 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: 280 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 840m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 750 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; ? m
∙Effective Range; 1100 m
CANiK
M2 QCB
M2 QCB Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 38.5 kg
- Length: 1665 mm
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 900m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 450 - 650 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 6800 m
∙Effective Range; 1830 m
SARSILMAZ
SAR 127 MT
SAR 127 MT Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 38.1 kg
- Length: 604 mm Barrel Length
- Width: ? mm
- Height: ? mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 930m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 1120 - 1200 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; ? m
∙Effective Range; 1000 m
SAR 762 MT PLATFORM
SAR 762 MT PLATFORM Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 12.5 kg
- Length: 1235 mm Barrel Length
- Width: ? mm
- Height: 280 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 850m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 550 - 950 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 3725 m
∙Effective Range; 1100 m
SAR 762 MT SELENOİT
SAR 762 MT SELENOİT Specifications
- Dimensions and Weight
- Mass: 11.8 kg
- Length: 632 mm Barrel Length
- Width: ? mm
- Height: 160 mm
- Operational Details
- Caliber: 7,62mm
- Shell: 7.62x51mm
- Feed System:
∙Belt-Fed - Muzzle Velocity:
∙ 850m/s - Rate of Fire
∙ 550 - 950 Rounds in 60 Seconds - Maximum Firing Range
∙Maximum Range; 3725 m
∙Effective Range; 1100 m
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I believe it would be more enjoyable if you add South Korea as sub tree, rather than Kazakhstan. South Korean tech tree might go to K2 Blackpanther, and you can also add Endonesian Kalpan MT in south Korean sub tech tree cuz both located close to each other and both are in asia. I know they are really different nations but still south korea might be added
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