No change
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if you hit the target, I’m glad you said that.
In the B-52 you get 21 chances to hit your target.
In the TU-95 you only get 4.
What’s new? We have plenty of aircraft that are at the same BR as much worse aircraft it’s called compression it’s not new. I’m gonna be honest both these vehicles are gonna suck to play because they really need their respective game modes to work.
I’m not gonna worry about a gimmick vehicle because I’m willing to wait to see how they will play in their intended game modes.
I’m not saying we should fight each other for better bombers, I’m just saying there should be better balance.
Also, I’m glad you bring up the Tu-4… which is still egregiously over br’d the B-29 is what a 7.0 now? And the TU-4 is an 8.0
I’m just saying, there seems to be a lot of favoritism towards the USA planes, especially in br placement.
If you only take a look at bombers, these examples become more outlandish.
Oh and the F-111 with full napalm was the way to finish an event in sim in 1 match. The B-52 will be no different
I guess that’s fair, but the TU-95 still needs to be around 150k base damage to be reasonably placed at its br, otherwise Its a slightly better TU-4 and the TU-4 is vastly over br’d
Guess what how about playing a 11.0 aircraft but in order to base bomb you have to have no flares and no gun also you are slower than everyone else?
Oh no that’s already exists again bad vehicles that can’t fulfill their role are always going to exist and I’d rather resources be spent on vehicles that aren’t limited time nor are gimmick vehicles personally
Tu-4 is still on 8.0 while B-29 is now on 6.7
Because
Tu-4 has 23mm NR-23 for their turret, while B-29 has worthless 50cal.
I am not disagreeing about Tu-4 is egregiously over br’d. but well, I think Tu-4 cannot be 6.7BR because props have no chance to shoot them down.
Quite sad that Gaijin still have PTSD about the old era, which Tu-4 flew like a Death Star.
Favouritism doesn’t only affect Americans.
Yes, some of their planes are shamelessly under’BRed. such as F-15A, F-86A, F-86F…
But some of the Russian planes are also underBRed. Yak-3 or BI can be an example?
There are planes which gets underBRs in both sides.
Many players play those and get awful statistics. Then Gaijin decides to keep them in BR.
If you play the nation-favouritism card here, I think you will get nothing because
1- You will turn B-52H players into enemies
2- Tons of russian bias guys might want to see you.
Considering the differance in BR and the differance is defensive armament on both aircrafts it’s kind of meh.
At 8.7 you have a bigger chance of getting tickled by a missle then you have at 8.3.
Sure you can get uptiered or downtiered, but for the sake of this thread, lets just say they fight at their own br.
So in an air setting, where you are a big target, with 8 heat signatures, the chance of catching a sidewinder before you reach you target is higher then you being able to drop half your bomb load. And especially at this time, both bombers are a huge plane magnet.
At 8.3 you’ll find some early jets with sidewinders, but the majority will have to rely on guns. With the bear having at least some form of 360 defensive capabilities, the chance of you dropping all 4 FAB3000’s on target is higher.
But in general, if both planes would have been modeld historicly, and both planes would have received their historical loadout and systems, they could be balanced way better then they currently fit in this meta.
This ^^^
Tu95 has way better defensive armament and angles, while yes, a vulcan 20mm its more powerful, it is limited to a small angle in the tail, while tu95 can shoot at many angles and sides.
In that case, then you should ask to revert the big bombs nerf and increase the br in GRB.
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other.
Bombers will never be meta but are semi ok for their BR other than general compression hell issues
this is also the first time interceptors like the six-shooter, lightning and starfighter have had the chance to target the things they were made to intercept.
its quite sealclubby but its nice to be able to play a plane in its intended role.
Use your gunners yourself, also b52 doesnt have an ai gunner, either its manual used or not used.
Not a significant gap in speed between both, you will not notice it.
Btw in sim, you can just wait til your top at 8.7, and let me tell you now, you’ll be king.
ive been shot down by TU95s a few times. glancing blows from B52s at best. As far as gameplay goes it seems the TU95 is considerably better just because of the gun defence.
both of their countermeasure suites suck equally, probably need some tweaks
But that’s only one part of a whole.
The primary role of a bomber is to… bomb! Your correct.
What currently has the biggest payload out of every vehicle in the game?
The B-52. I’m not saying it’s a problem they added it, I’m saying it’s a problem how they balanced it.
I still have trauma from that B-52 CM bug thread that he hijacked to complain about the bomb loads.
That was a correction of blast radius scaling with increased explosive mass and from what I can tell it is fairly correct, at least in regards to the increase of destruction radius on the stat cards.
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TU95 has the biggest bomb. its even
A lot harder to aim with controller. Mouse pointer is a lot easier to use easier, it also diminishes the whole point of crew skills in the gunnery section no?
And no not a huge gap. Roughly about 50 mph. But the climb rate is better on the B-52, and the height needed to go the max speed in the TU is 8km up. Meaning you’ll actually be rather sluggish for a long while, meanwhile the B-52 would’ve already hit its target.
not in terms of TNT equivalent explosive mass or destruction radius
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Thats why it is at a lower br than b52 rn.
And lets be real, both bombers have enough to bomb 4 bases. Why you would want to destroy more if there is only 4 bases, you want to fly around waiting for bases when fighters are climbing??
No…? I get you lean to one side, but you cannot be that narrow minded.