I want to bring foward an issue that has been present for quite sometimes now.
Several bug reports has been made over the official bug report site for Gaijin/War Thunder about the fact that the Belgian F-16AM does not have his Sniper ATP ; nor has his RADAR HMD been added since his addition during the first BeNeLux update.
I’ve made another bug report for the Sniper ATP today as i’ve heard that another Belgian (Dutch?) F-16AM will be added to France and it was closed 2 hours after posting with
The issue is that several bug reports has been made over time and they are either forgotten ; or closed with a refering to a 2 years old bug report closed with the following answer :
“is not an error
is treated as a suggestion
SNIPER significantly outperforms all other scope containers in the game”
However ; the Sniper ATP has been added to various F-16s including the F-16AM for Norway at the same BR.
What about it then? Is there an official communication about that matter? I feel that us BeNeLux players has been mostly forgotten ; and not heard.
Tbf I said this when the Norsk F-16 first came out. The Norsk F-16 HMD report listed the Belgian one yet was denied iirc but between the two the Belgian one kept the fake 120 CM count versus the Norsk so I figured gaijin wanted artificial differences but now that both have 45 it needs its HMD
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In general: pods and ammunition are up to the developers if they want to implement or not. Those things are used as balancing tools. The only thing we as players can do is prove that the vehicle has the technical capability to use them and hope for the outcome we want. You can also ask the Community Managers here on the forum if they have an answer from the developers of why something was/wasn’t implemented. Smin1080p_WT tends to be very active in the “Rumor Roundup & Discussion” thread (just search a bit on the forum first to see so that your question hasn’t already been answered, the community managers get pinged A LOT).
It can indeed take those; I went with my university to visit the Florennes Air Base.
We went into the F-16 hangers, ans the ones that were going under a last checkup before flying indeed had the Sniper Pod; I did as soon as I got home a suggestion (and on other modern aircraft), but it was refused.
Here are a picture I took:
Sorry for the blue line, I had to do that if I wanted to keep the pictures.
Had a friend who worked as a crew chief back then ; he was also a spotter on his free time and mind you the DoD didn’t allowed him to take pictures of our 9X for “security reasons” xd
Im also wondering if in the future the BAF will use the upcoming AIM-120C8 on our F-16AM… or if they would be scrapped before that or if they are not compatible with the platform.
Yeah now it changed, when I asked a guy explaining the basic armament, I asked since when we had 9X, since it is pretty recent (I was refering to the block 2) but he said it was there since more than 20y, so it means it is a block 1.
But the F-35 are unapprochable, even do they will be flying in 2 wees (I’ll be there :D at the Florennes air show).
We cannot even take pictures of the part of the base around the F-35 and Reaper where there is as well the command center.
It is painted in white and blue with abit of black, maybe some sort of modern camo.
It’s especially strange because the Norwegian F-16 at the same BR already has the Sniper pod. It also looks like the premium F-16 that was changed to a Dutch variant will receive the Litening pod instead of the Sniper, even though, to my knowledge, both the Belgian and Dutch Air Forces also operated their F-16s with the Sniper pod’s. That said, I can’t complain too much, since the Litening is already a significant upgrade over the LANTIRN.
I also wonder whether the Dutch F-16 will receive an HMD. The Norwegian F-16 uses essentially the same model of helmet and already has one, while the Belgian F-16s, despite using the more advanced Scorpion helmet-mounted cueing system, still don’t have any HMD implemented at all.
For the F16 HMS all I can say is to ask gunjob or another tech mod to bump one of the better informed HMS reports or ask one of the Norsk player who did their bug reports and see if they have any sources available you could add.
Iirc the HMS source for the Norsk one also mentioned the Belgian F16 was affected
The F-16AM premium was originaly intendeed probably as an “early” AM MLU ; as the livery shown a “FS” on the tail which was only present a while ago
Honestly i don’t know if it is a bug ; or something made by Gaijin as we operate both Scorpion HMCS & JHCMS helmets ; and doc is a bit clusmy if radar HMD is enabled or not
That’s why some of the Belgian F16’s were originally denied was because of the Radar HMD reports being uncertain in answering if that was possible iirc.
Interesting, do you have proof of this? Consider making a bug report.
I know we bought over 100 of the AIM-120C-8…
I found this info:
Missile
Period on Belgian F-16s
Guidance
Notes
AIM-120B AMRAAM
~1995–present (inventory status uncertain today)
Active radar
First AMRAAM variant publicly documented in Belgian service. Belgium purchased 72 AMRAAMs in 1995–96 and later acquired additional stocks. Some AIM-120Bs were later donated to Ukraine.
AIM-120C-8 AMRAAM
2023 onward
Active radar
Approved for Belgian F-16AM and F-35A fleets. 120 missiles approved under FMS. Essentially an export-standard AIM-120D-class missile.
For the AIM-120B i had some insider information about it ; i do need to find proper sources as insider sources are not valid x)
Oh and good to see another Belgian concerned with Belgian vehicles.
Indeed ; i try to foward stuff as much as possible when it is somewhat related to Belgium as in my eyes the BeNeLux tree is realy sad to see in his current state
