I tested it using a Custom Battle / CDK assets. The S75s/P-12 currently have zero issue detecting/tracking/eliminating the F-117. ;)
That would need some tweaking prior to primetime, but I would love to be able to go SAM hunting in the Nighthawk.
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This event is entirely about tuning them for their introduction into GRB
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Yeah so my point exactly. BEFORE THEY ARE ADDED TO GRB which they have damaged the meta with JET SPAM and helicopter to. But hey here is an EVENT WHERE YOU CAN SEE that gaijin can IN THEORY DO heavy sams. But you arent getting them in ground yet
We dont need SAMs like S-75s in GRB, what we need is SAM/SPAA spawn locations similar to helicopters that are not part of the GRB map that tanks use.
I do hope this event is them testing that theory with the helicopter spawns+air spawns but till they separate SAM spawns from GRB spawns it wont matter what they add if CAS can still point and click at spawn thanks to map pod marking being introduced.
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This should’ve of been done before the f-14 the 15 the 18 and 16 and the su-34 and typhoon and eurofighter. But hey look we are finally testing heavy sams under AI in an event. Aren’t you happy
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You know the typhoon and eurofighter is the same jet right?
Also it’s like the weakest top tier CAS at the moment.
But anyway. Eh… I’m glad we finally got stronger. Was impossible to try and use a tornado Gr1 against a Pantsir
Some NAtions Im looking at japan have part of their heavy sam but not the radar for a good while now. And even if you had sam/spaa sites around the map eventually air would learn where they are and how to avoid them. Or CAS would whine that they get a missile fired at them before they can do anything., And one last point they are testing a 70 Year old heavy sam system in game finally.
Yeah im sure it is total weak cas. Oh wait you were comparing it to other cas not the SPAA it would face.
Problem with systems like the S-75 is they are not designed to shoot down fighter sized targets.
They are easilly jammed and were only a real threat to B-52s and high/medium altitude bombing runs.
It does seem like they are pulling far too much G and tracking a little too well. Feels like the S-75 is performing like the S-75M
During the Gulf pilots discounted S-75M it was not designed to hit a fighter sized target.
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1 reason its a 70 year old heavy sam system. Even if they do put these in grb in some manner its 70 years old trying to shot down 4th gen fighters
Yep, still waiting for it to get it’s IRL AGMs. What it has now are useless.
not really, this event has already shown they can simply add a spawn location for SAMs but give a general idea and force the CAS pilot to actually use mk2 eyeballs and scan the area for threats. thats also what RWR is for on some jets :D it gives you a direction and in some jets “can” give you a distance but that isnt modelled fully in WT.
I get what your wanting but S-75s simply would make GRB maps kinda redundant for SAM/SPAA players if those are being shot down. if gaijin are fully committed to adding multi vehicle SAM systems into the game like mentioned in the last Q&A then they need to get GRB maps corrected to allow them to function as SAMs and not as spawn food for CAS or other tanks because god forbid we get bigger maps to allow SAMs to spread out more (hence the need for SAMs to have there own spawns outside the GRB map area scattered around the larger map space)
In fact, these are the S75M2 now, which uses the V759 missile with a maximum range of 60km.
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Its acting like a BUK though thats my point.
Simply put at the ranges ground RB is these SAMS would only be able to hit things higher up.
Are we going to see Patriots just splashing Su-30s spawning before they can vomit Kh-38s?
Which they shouldnt be if they are supposed to 1970s era missiles?
There is a gross imbalance in ground rb and the ability to fend off CAS of 4th generation fighters. Gaijin has been promising and hinting at heavy multi vehicle sams for a bit. And the first one up that is being tested in an even is a 70 year old,. This doesnt make me believe that adding this 70 year old system even in ground rb and you figure how to such as sam sites or something is going to fix anything of the current meta of CAS ruling mid to late game play in ground.
You would need the SAMs to be active as soon as you spawn
Or make the spawn for aircraft further away from the battle area
At the moment you would still get your Kh-38s off before the S-75 hit you
Typhoon and Brimstones…LOL forget about it
The SAM year has nothing to do with it.
They’ve added a set of modules that can be config’ed to many different SAM systems
The S-75 is just what they’re testing it with
In the 70S, you had the AGM78B and AIM7F. But obviously you have nothing in this task. Even SA2 can cover the high altitude in the south of the map.
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Japan has been handicapped with a top tier spaa that literally is part of multi vehicle sam system. CAS shouldnt rule GROUND Rb games. Because some people like playing ground in ground rb. If you want top tier jets and cant figure out to put in heavy sams then place a cap on what jets are allowed in to top tier ground. You can keep 3rd generation fighters and the stuff because most spaa is capable of fighting that.