The only stat-checking I typically do is when someone is claiming something. I usually look to see if they have the experience to talk about the thing they’re talking about.
In most cases, when you see a “nerf this” or “nerf that” post for top tier battles, many of the players are hypocritical in some way. For example, in the recent “Abrams 5 second reload” debates, the majority people complaining about it are Russian Mains. This speaks volumes since Russia is undeniably the king of top tier at the moment while America is about at the bottom of the list in performance.
To me, this seems like a good way to gauge bias during arguments. It’s kind of like a source if you will.
Although, I don’t ignore people based simply on their skill level, I will typically also tell them they might not have the experience to back up their claims. I don’t outright ignore them though.
The way that statchecking has been used against me hasn’t been for calling me out on my claims as so many of the memes around the forums are claiming, it’s just straight up dismissing the point I made to a new player to use SPAA because they were dying to planes in tanks…
But you know, gotta keep those new players whinging and moaning by making the ‘advice’ go away by shame and ridicule.
@Beeschurger You could’ve given more advice in that thread rather than asking for everyones stats and such leaning to that angle.
The overall ‘need’ for everything to be statchecked all starts to stem from one instance, then everyone and thier dog started checking everyone…
Wouldn’t take much to ask him if they want to squad so you can show them how wrong they are, but you just want to ask for peoples stats and paste up screens of yours…
It’s rather ignorant as often the point made has nothing to do with the stats of the players themselves.
It’s actually why it wasn’t allowed for so long, but now it seems completely acceptable to berate someone about how bad they are using something, compared to trying to educate them or encourage them to use it differently or more for it’s actual purpose…
Always good to just grab their stats and make an argument…
Then theres no need to check stats. However if person claims game balance, a stat check is often neccesary.
I dont think thats true. I can go and check your stats on official page at any time, and I was able to do so (well, not exactly check you) as far back as 2020 if my memory serves me right.
Make dumb comment, get berated. Dont make dumb comment, dont get berated. Easy as that.
Again, i dont need to bring stats into it when the comment at hand has nothing to do with them.
Did I bring your stats into our discussion? I did not. Because there was no reason to do so, nor your stats would affect your argument in any way.
Yeah well sorry to be sceptic towards your unbacked claim.
And i did not deny it at any moment of this conversation.
Yet i get feeling you are trying to make me somehow feel guilty for “not helping” and i can assure you it wont work.
What i do t understand is why are you so vehemently opposed to “stat checking”. It is a normal thing to do, even outside warthunder, albeit you wouldnt call it stat checking. Only experienced doctors get to perform difficult operstions, only experienced profesors get to lead universities etc. Simply put, not all opinions are created equal and will never be.
I’d say it’s primarily the IvanBoos malding and mass-flagging folks.
Got a few of them stalking me to see what I post, even flagging stuff from months ago. It’s annoying, but also amusing that I live rent-free in their heads.
I didn’t say that you had brought my stats into question…
I’m actually pointing out that you had little to nothing to do in that thread other than calling people out on thier stats.
I’m not trying to guilt you with it, I’m merely making the ascertion that you aren’t contributing to that thread other than calling out for stats, then bringing it into this thread, about someone saying that someone PMed them with a mean word.
And that’s where we get to the true calibre of this sort of discussion…
It’s a forum, for discussions, not leg humping and ego stroking.
Indeed. I was just giving an example of not bringing stats into discussion that has nothing to do with stats.
And not once i denied that. Dude made stupid statement, he deserves to be clowned on for skill issue.
But i am contributing to that thread. Other people will now see dude has skill issue and since he didnt present any evidence backed argument, those people probably wont call for T-80UK to be moved BR 0.3 lower
That what can be estabilished without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
I brought his toxic behaviour to the thread where he pretends hes not toxic and talks about toxic behaviour, literally wheres the issue? Im calling him out for being a hypocrite.
Yes and thats exactly why ego of stupid people (or arguments made by stupid people who only present their ego as evidence) should be shot down without mercy.
I refuse to yield and play nice with people that dont deserve it. THEY should be making the effort to be liked first (or THEY should present arguments with some effort).
Oh, in other words “everybody need to shut they mouth and not talking about anything in forum because they lack the k/d and battles for talking about the topics.” Is nice tactic to shut people mouth for critize about gameplay.
You feel that people with low stats should not talking in forum about things they don’t like or suggestion and call people toxic but look at yourself because you aren’t better at all using stats (screenshot) to shame them and calling people hypocrite.
