Tornado IDS ASSTA 3 SLE discussion thread

Unless it was a repeat of the MFG. I would not put it passed them to lock ARM behind an event aircraft for an annoyingly long time

Mentally Preparing for Tornado ECR (AG51 Immelmann) as the Operation WINTER plane now…

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So again, the IDS can carry and fire the AGM-88. This is not a unique feature of the ECR variant!

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well yes it can carry and fire it, but it cant lock it on a Radar by itself, it needs an ELINT system to do that just like Literally every other ARM carrier SEAD/DEAD plane too

its like Buddy Lasing for Paveways, you can have an ECR do the Radar Locating and a second IDS carry additional missiles

12.3 my opinion is to high br for tornado same for british one ok have 15 brimstone but is laser guided… fly caracteristic is a f brick… and 12.3 in ground battle = with 12.7 “toptier” and toptier spaas easy destory it this really not competitive u look at new premium su30 wich have kh29 really good missile +kh59 , 4 r73 and fox3 missile same br?

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everything is unfinished so idk

generally Top tier A2G weapons are Extremely compressed right now

Do they?

I dont recall any such system being required by GR1s in Op Granby, they were just able to fire off ALARMs towards Iraqi positions

ALARM and HARM are different missiles tho, idk how ALARM works

Yeah, they are, just

So maybe more accurate to say AGM-88 requires ELINT?

wonder where some people see today the 9L/I, because I see there only the 9L/I-1 :)))))
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I dont see at all because I dont have Dev installed on my machine rn as Im not home

Still consider it kinda BS the GR4 has to use Aim-9Ls till T3 but the SLE seems to just get IRCCM stock

Just checking, does ASSTA3 still maintain gelded brimmy?

When I first saw ASSTA3, it was just C&P of GR.4 and only changed AIM-9L/M to AIM-9Li

I still say its WIP, because even the bomb loadouts arent ready

I agree yes, but then we should change that for the GR4 and not make it worse for SLE

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That I would concur with.

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Yeah, We should change that with give GR.4 9M as stock

but Gaijin hates brits, Gaijin hates players, Gaijin loves money and GE

So in worst case scenario, if we propose changes, Gaijin will simply add AIM-9L stock on ASSTA3
to restore fairness
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Yes and no. As far as I know, the HARM has a passive seeker that can detect radar emissions across a wide frequency band. The ECR version is certainly more effective at this, but as far as I understand, it’s not necessary.

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They are very much still meta, a CAS player with two braincells will have no issues against top tier SAMs

Saying otherwise is just cope.
Even with the F-16C uptiered to 13.0 ground I’ve had few issues with SPAAs, especially IRIS-T.
Buk is the only real scary one but that’s handled pretty easily by either playing Russia/heli/spamming glide bombs/minranging

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Also has no IR or TV guided bombs like the British tornado gets.