Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

Ho 229 was real no?

Wow. My bad.

I dont care, I just want Gaijin to pick a tune and stick to it. If an entirely paper plane like the F-16AJ is A-okay to add, then they’re gonna have to budge a bit on other issues.

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that is not how that works at all dude…

the Grom is a GPS guided cruise missile… yes it’s fast, yes it has big boom. It cannot track moving targets, and the KH38 already outranges everything and unlike the Grom actually CAN track moving targets.

Comparing the Grom and Brimstone is like comparing a JDAM to a Paveway

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Not seen folks dying to jdams in grb?

The groms explosive mass is enough in grb you wouldn’t have to land an entirely direct hit. But yeay i get what you mean.

Regardless the point stands, if it cant be balanced, why add it.

let me repeat myself to see if you follow along.

the Grom-1 is just a KH38 that cannot track moving targets… Nobody was going to use it in GRB, and there is nothing it does to GRB that the KH38 does not already do.

You understand why it cant be compared to the brimstone yet?

It can be compared, just not very well. But read what i said.

Something to note, is the Grom-1 also could use the KH-38 seekerheads too apparently, so if it had been added, I dont think we were too far away from a Grom-1L or T

I understand what you said. You seem to not be understanding by trying to compare the Grom and Brimstone.

These missiles are NOT the same, these weapons do not have the same impact.
The Grom was removed for the sake of Air RB and Sim

The Brimstone was nerfed for the sake of GRB

The Grom would not have done anything to GRB that the KH38 isn’t already doing. Therefor… it would change nothing.

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So weve established were on the same page, im.no longer comparing them.

What i am saying is, maybe its further up now, why is the brimstone nerfed into the ground. In comparison to the kh38, if one can be added fully functional, so should the other. Not artifically nerfed for the game mode.

Just like they’ve rolled back adding the grom due to not being able to balance it.

Im not comparing the weapon systems. But the way they are going about them.

the only real reason that exists for the brimstone nerf is just blatant hypocrisy (and I say this in the most honest and critical way possible. Because there really isn’t a nicer word for it)

The KH38 breaks half of the reasons given for why the Brimstones wont have their FNF modeled, and the other reasons (LOAL especially) isn’t a valid excuse because countless weapons in game should have it and dont because balance (but suddenly it’s unreasonable to remove it from this weapon)

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I find this nerfing stuff to suit brs a bit ridiculous when thats why the brs exist in the first place.

Dont introduce a platform with its weapon systems nerfed into the ground, for any nation.
This nonsense of half adding stuff and calling it a day is why so many folks are up in arms imo

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what’s highlighted in yellow is completely valid

what’s highlighted in green, either isn’t a valid reason because gaijin has gone out of their way to tweak it on other weapons while retaining their identity, or has already been broken multiple times by several weapons

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Blatent as well.

Biggest issue is the top tier compression. You have 2.3 BRs worth of aircraft all sat at the exact same BR, all fighting each other. GR4 with SAL only Brimstones would be fine if the worst thing it would face is single role aircraft. Even if those were still fairly strong ones like the F-4, or even F-16s. Because if they wanted to spawn in CAS, then they would instead be in things like the F-111, Su24, Su-39 or a harrier

The problem is that the GR4 will be facing not only Fox-3s, but Fox-3 multiroles like the F-15E, F-16C and Su-34 pretty much every match, aircraft that can take out half your team on the ground with FnFs and then hunt for the free kill that is a Tornado at that BR.

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No it isn’t.

That’s the point. Yak-141 and Ho-229 are both real aircraft.

SAL-only is a historical firing mode idk what to tell you

The issue, is that I doubt mode 1 would be used for the context of anti-tank work in contested airspace. It was intended when you had air superiority and providing CAS for troops on the ground or during a counter insurgency strikes like in operations like Op Shader.

Mode 2 and 3 is what would have likely been used to deal with tanks within the vague context of GRB, or even ASB

Only 6 months? You’re quite generous.

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