Tornado GR.4: Tenacious Tonka

does Pantsir radar see Hellfires?

I think so

Exactly, all you need is two additional upgrade packages to be researchable, mangal under the ubh armor package and the jammer monster under the laser warning/measurement package. In this way managal plus side welded steal frame anti DM-53 whatever may come next and of course mega jammer anti missile anti laser illumination. That will be something.

You know, after playing the new update it just confirms everything I felt previously. Only Russia is allowed to have functioning equipment. It is absolutely outstanding how much Russian air dominates ground battles. It’s hilarious that the Brimstone is deemed to powerful because it “can’t be countered” yet the Russian jets are firing off missiles that no one can possibly see before they’re hit by them and watch as half the team is wiped out in seconds by it.

This is like the Mig-27K spam a few years back but like 500% worse. Top tier is pretty much unwinnable unless you have Russia on your team.

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At the very least. They need to give the GR4 BOL.

Fighting 14.0s like the F-15E in a Tornado Gr4 doesnt sound fun

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I only played air to unlock CAS for ground so I’m not too familiar with how top tier air is atm but in ground it’s just crazy how many KH missiles I’m seeing completely wipe out my team. It’s very difficult to enjoy or even get a victory in ground at the moment.

Yeah, the fact the soviets have the best AGMs and the SPAA is kinda insane. But the biggest issue with the lack of FnF missiles on the GR4 is the pressence of multiroles like the F-15E, Su-34 and Gripen that the ultimately pure ground attacker aircraft like the GR4 has to defend against whilst loitering waiting for a Brimstone 1 to hit. GR4 doesnt have that much of an upgrade over the 11.3 Tornado IDS

Having an absolutely insane amount of CMs to defend against AMRAAM and similar fox-3 missiles would be a notable boost to survivability.

In the future though, they should replace the Brimstone 1s with Brismtone 2s. Even they are still limited to SAL, they would have at least comprable performance to the AGM-65s and KH-38s

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are you not able to mix and match Terma and BOZ? 600x chaff is enough and if you take full flares 296 Flares is quite good too

Agreed, atleast they will be able to get to target in time, make it on par with other munitions

You can, but the BOL were one of the major changes from the GR1 to the GR4. So would be historically accurate. Also an extra 320 CMs ontop of that count would help a lot for what is ultimately a fairly weak 11.3 airframe to fight against the top tier 14.0 Fox-3 slingers.

True,
would make it be able to carry an insane amount of chaff (1576 if you take full chaff)
idk how the series of countermeasures is determined but my worry is that it would use BOL first / Intermix flare calibres, making it less effective when you may need it to be its most effective

also I just realised that it doesn’t get Hindenburg tanks, will any of the other nados get Hindenburgs

F3 Late does. I did ask about them, they prioritise everything getting one, despite them being fully modeled in game. So might be a while before we get them. But yes. I really want them, especially on the GR4.

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As for the CM usage. Id hope it would use BOL at the same time.

So Dropping flares would go

BOZ Flares + 1-2 BOL until you use up all the BOZ Flares then it would use TERMA flares + 1-2 BOL

When you chaff it would use a BOZ Chaff + 1-2 BOL.

So they would just make your existing CMs stronger.

If it needed to use them in sequence, then yeah, should use them last.

How’s it going?

The grind for anything other than France air is going slow.
Teams are dying too quickly.

That and I got burnt out of CAS due to them being unkillable, so it’ll be even longer before I run a 12.3 aircraft in a 12.0 lineup.

What a shame.

The topic of this post is telling us that no other country can possess missiles with performance exceeding KH38 XD

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How many months do they need to review 2-page MBDA Brochure? Or is it an impossible task to find 3 words “proximity fuse capability” out of 382?

Been reported, but just on Gaijin whether or not they want to add prox fuse to the brimstones

Vikhrs got it, no reason why the brimstone shouldn’t be able to in game

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With gaijin you never know.

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We do know, its British so it will be denied for being too strong cause “Su-25T Subsonic” makes Vikhrs not too strong