Tornado GR.1 Balance Issue

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I do think 11.0 is optimistic at this time. Whilst yes the F-5A(G) with 2x 9Ls exists at the same BR, the F-5s are overperforming quite a bit at the moment and are due quite a heavy nerf. The Tornado is likely the stronger of the 2, even before its finished and at full strength.

But there is certianly no justification for it to be 11.7 at this time and should be 11.3

Now is their a path for it getting the buffs needed to warrant being 11.7 like getting BOL? Maybe. but I too would prefer the lower BR

The refit Saudi Tornado IDS is an option, but I dont think worth given we have the GR4 already, but what I really want is a Tornado IDS for the 10.0 GRB, that looks like fun gameplay and Britian is basically DOA past 10.7, so having a Tornado for that BR would be excellent. I see 2 good options for that. Either the Tornado Gr1B and be an MFG C&P or the Saudi Tornado Gr1 without its Tpod and guided weapons.

Saudi F3 would make a good premium too

But that is a matter for another thread.

But to keep it on topic,

Tornado Gr1 needs:

  • Mk103 Engine
  • 11.3 BR

All Tornado IDS need

  • BL755
  • Sky Shadow
  • Further FM development
  • Combat Thrust
  • Radar
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What would a proper Radar even do in the Tornado? Or do you mean things like ground mapping?

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To put this in perspective, the last time the Tornado was 11.0 it had a worse flight model and was among the best fighters in matches with 1 base of bombs.

It would bomb a base, frag 2 - 3 players, and RTB.
That’s why it went up in BR so quickly when first introduced.

And with the FM buffs last year, it would only be stronger.

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Yeah, also potentially should have a fairly basic A2A SRC radar as well iirc. If its got IFF (I dont recall) then that is quite a decent boost in SB at least

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I’ve taken a short peek into my two books on the Tornado on the issue of the Radar, and Ian Black (Author of the Haynes guide on the RAF Tornados) makes no mention of the Radar set/s being able to acquire aerial targets. Bernd and Frank Vetter (Authors of Motorbuch’s book simply titled ‘Tornado’) however do. But only vaguely. They mention the Radar/s being able of pursuing Aerial Targets (Luftzielverfolgung). Which to me sounds awfully like the simple ACM every Tornado already has ingame

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I think flame found some info in the National Archives

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That’d be very interesting if true