对中中国科技树处理的不满与诉求:来自中国玩家的心声

When My external fuel tank of ZBD04A won’t be exploded?
When CN CAS role aircrafts can compete with Russia 16 KH38MTs in total? (Should I thanks to Gaijin because You guys doubled usable amount of KH29T ? Oh goddamn it’s 6 KH29Ts in toptier, that’s OP!)
When get My VT4A1/ZTZ99A/WZ1001/ZTZ99s/ZTZ96As/ZBD04A/ZLT11 spall liners back?
When My VT4A1 UFP can bounce a shot?
When Gaijin realize JH7A is a toptier aircraft and worth to equip PL8B and PL5EII but not a low rank aircraft?

Issues already passed for a whole year, 5 major updates per year but no time for a bug, what the hell are you guys doing? balacne issue? then don’t mark as a realistic game.

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很难,指望用一篇请愿性质的文章来试图提醒或者感动gaijin官方是很难的一件事
我对此报以悲观态度
但至少我们有尝试与gaijin沟通过,我们试图以相对理性的方法消弭玩家和官方之间的成见
希望这真的有一点点用

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gaijin在面对大量玩家提供的数据时的表现,就是相信他们认为正确的。并且他们宁愿使用虚构的数据来完成游戏中存在很长时间的载具,例如勒克莱尔和公羊,同时又使用虚构的数据来加强一些载具,还拿真实性和所谓的游戏平衡性来充当借口。这种充满着歧视和漠视玩家意见的表现,令玩家失望和愤怒。

Gaijin’s performance when faced with a large amount of data provided by players is to believe what they think is correct. And they would rather use fictional data to complete vehicles that have existed in the game for a long time, such as Leclerc and Ariete, while also using fictional data to enhance some vehicles, and using authenticity and game balance as excuses. This kind of behavior full of discrimination and disregard for player opinions has disappointed and angered players.

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十分认同你的观点,尤其是发布新载具时公布资料来源和数据,这非常有利于玩家提前了解载具的性能和制作团队的“用心良苦”

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一个个对中系载具合理需求的issues被nab是十分消磨中国玩家热情的,当这个情绪已经到达了冰点的时候,一个玩家的退坑会引起雪崩一样的退坑浪潮,同时中国玩家也看多了游戏厂商作死之后的事后补救,但是这样也只能挽回一小部分人。我们有一句话形容,不是亡羊补牢,因为玩家的耐心已经没有了,已经没得救了,这句话是“他不是知道错了,只是知道自己要死了”

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如果gaijin继续保持对中系科技树的敷衍态度,为什么不直接删除

If Gaijin continues to neglect the Chinese tech tree with such a half-hearted approach, why not just remove it entirely?

Если Gaijin продолжит так халатно относиться к китайской ветке разработки, почему бы просто не удалить её полностью?

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“If the feature is still incomplete, why do you persistently dismiss issues as ‘not a bug’ and respond to player feedback with perfunctory excuses, instead of transparently stating that it’s still under development?”

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I believe that the arrogance and condescension of trickzzter, the administrator of the issue section, has become a significant barrier to communication between the player community and the development team. During the public testing phase of the game, he has repeatedly dismissed en masse the feedback and suggestions from players who identified glaring issues and attempted to help the development team correct these errors. I recommend that the developers formally warn him to take player feedback seriously or consider replacing him. If his behavior is authorized by your team, you might as well shut down the issue section entirely and proceed with haphazard development based on whims.
我认为issue区管理员trickzzter的自大与傲慢是玩家与开发组之间沟通的一个巨大障碍,他屡次在游戏的公开测试环节玩家发现明显问题在issue区进行反馈的时候批量否定各类试图帮助开发组纠正错误的玩家建议,我建议制作组应警告他认真对待玩家的提议,或者换掉他。如果他的行为得到了你们的授意,你们可以把issue直接关掉按你们的臆想胡乱制作。

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中肯的,一针见血的
Fair and to the point

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Imho this observation is not limited to Chinese vehicles; basically all nations suffer from this “not a bug” reply behaviour.

As long as you don’t talk about USSR / RF vehicles gaijin struggles severely with admitting that their vehicles modelling is a mix of educated and wild guesses and it mainly depends on the economic aspects (is fixing the bug worth the money we have to invest to fix them?) of the report or actual impacts on the in-game economy if they take a look at it.

So as soon as gaijin is aware of some exploits (like the VTOL aircraft abusing the RP gains with taking off and landings some years ago) they will be fixed within days - whilst the RP bug for fast subsequent matches took years as it affected “just” the players.

You might know that Gaijin Kft has for several years now a Chinese Investor - and you might also know that foreign investments have to follow certain rules set by the CCP - so from my pov you might have more success with your request if you “inform” this investor about your case.

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gaijin从上到下都透露出傲慢,和对中系的看不起,既然如此为什么不把中系从游戏中删除?时间成本就不考虑了,只把各位的礼包退款,而不是做出一坨屎让所有人恶心,反正你看不起我们看见我们天天交报告也烦吧?
Gaijin exudes arrogance and contempt towards China from top to bottom. If that’s the case, why not remove China from the game? I won’t consider the time cost anymore. Only Refund everyone’s gift packages instead of making a piece of shit that makes everyone nauseous, you look down on us. It’s annoying to see us submitting reports every day, isn’t it?

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支持

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Perhaps many non-China players will be confused by the sudden emergence of so many wishes in this forum. Believe me, you may understand when you see that ‘’ CAS MONSTER’’ with 4 KH29T and a tank that can be penetrated by 5.8mm rifle bullets

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很难不支持你的观点,中国市场明明是巨大的,如果gaijin能够真正尊重中系玩家的意见的话,他们能够获得更为友好的舆论氛围(对英国,意大利的玩家也是如此)以及巨额的利润。是Warthunder在中国的国服的失败屏蔽了gaijin的双眼吗?It’s hard not to support your point. The Chinese market is clearly enormous. If Gaijin could truly respect the opinions of Chinese players, they could foster a more favorable public sentiment (the same applies to players from the UK, Italy, etc.) and reap substantial profits. Is it the failure of War Thunder’s Chinese server that has blinded Gaijin to this reality?

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Crazy GAME

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but the 99a and vt4 is one of the most weak vehicle in the war thunder top br。

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I can’t help but agree with your point. Gaijin has never truly valued Chinese tech tree vehicles or Chinese players

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agree

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Arrogance and prejudice lead

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