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sb游戏官方的不作和对中系地面载具的歧视让人愤怒,使用虚构的数据削弱中系的同时又用虚构的数据加强其他系,还拿史实和娱乐游戏平衡性来当借口,这样的结果就是VT5既不符合现实也不具备平衡性,上一次是VT4,再之前是99A,这不是第一次也不会是最后一次。
Not just Chinese vehicles lots of other vehicles the issue is not unique to China but I feel for everybody upset
There is no harm but benefit in disclosing official references. We acknowledge that Gaijin has a certain and fair evaluation reviewing the information subbmitted by players, and publishing the references accepted by developers would be a better way to guide players in terms of future subbmittions.
Frankly it’s the case with all nations except for Russia and whoever Gaijin’s favourite is at the time (it used to be Sweden, now it’s France).
But in general I think Gaijin need to reach out to the community if they need assistance in developing a vehicle, instead of releasing a vehicle that will inevitably be half finished, wasting the communities time who need to bug report everything, and the developers time because now they need to rework half the vehicle.
Exactly I’d rather a vehicle not come then be ridiculously wrong
—— A Disappointed Chinese Tech Tree Player
Gaijin disclosing their sources for a denied bug report would be such a positive change. It will lessen the rift between the devs/bug report mods, and the player base, as well as increase transparency in how vehicles are created. I think that if a bug report has gotten enough attention/info put into it (such as X amount of sources and Y amount of “same issues”, Gaijin disagreeing sources should be shown in some way. It is ridiculous that they can deny a report because they have some conflicting source that we don’t know about.
China’s outstanding bug report situation is quite unique, because it’s a smaller nation in WT that doesn’t always have the best vehicles (in WT), which leads to denied bug reports harming the overall experience more than average.
I really appreciate how passionate the Chinese community is about all of this.
的确,在战争雷霆中,中国的载具强度与其现实有着巨大差异,而issue区的区别对待封死了一切中国玩家通过官方途径反映的努力。究竟BUG组言之凿凿理由来自哪里?gaijin的数据又来自哪里?用“游戏平衡”的理由对现实进行选择性还原 又仅仅用拍脑袋的方式,在完全可笑的地方削弱(比如VT5,作为ZTQ15的出口型,正面装甲居然会被5.8㎜步枪弹打穿)Indeed, in War Thunder, there is a huge difference between China’s vehicle strength and its reality, and the differential treatment of the issue zone has blocked all efforts of Chinese players to reflect through official channels. What is the reason for the BUG group’s statement? Where does gaijin’s data come from? Use the reason of “game balance” to selectively restore reality, and only use the way of patting the head to weaken it in totally ridiculous places (for example, VT5, as the export model of ZTQ15, the frontal armor can be penetrated by 5.88 mm rifle bullets).
你们论坛管理员有没有疑惑过为什么中国玩家如此之多,而中系科技树玩家却只占一小部分?你们有没有疑惑过为什么中系科技树玩家怎么少但是关心它的人却很多?gaijin对中系科技树的不关心让你们失去了很多赚钱的机会。
Have you ever wondered why there are so many Chinese players, while only a small fraction of the Chinese tech tree players are played? Have you ever wondered why there are so few players in the Chinese tech tree, but there are so many people who care about it? Gaijin’s indifference in the Chinese tech tree has cost you a lot of opportunities to make money.
正确的,希望官方重视中系玩家的感受,认真修复中系载具的错误,使其更加贴近现实,这对游戏的未来发展非常有利
When My external fuel tank of ZBD04A won’t be exploded?
When CN CAS role aircrafts can compete with Russia 16 KH38MTs in total? (Should I thanks to Gaijin because You guys doubled usable amount of KH29T ? Oh goddamn it’s 6 KH29Ts in toptier, that’s OP!)
When get My VT4A1/ZTZ99A/WZ1001/ZTZ99s/ZTZ96As/ZBD04A/ZLT11 spall liners back?
When My VT4A1 UFP can bounce a shot?
When Gaijin realize JH7A is a toptier aircraft and worth to equip PL8B and PL5EII but not a low rank aircraft?
Issues already passed for a whole year, 5 major updates per year but no time for a bug, what the hell are you guys doing? balacne issue? then don’t mark as a realistic game.
很难,指望用一篇请愿性质的文章来试图提醒或者感动gaijin官方是很难的一件事
我对此报以悲观态度
但至少我们有尝试与gaijin沟通过,我们试图以相对理性的方法消弭玩家和官方之间的成见
希望这真的有一点点用
gaijin在面对大量玩家提供的数据时的表现,就是相信他们认为正确的。并且他们宁愿使用虚构的数据来完成游戏中存在很长时间的载具,例如勒克莱尔和公羊,同时又使用虚构的数据来加强一些载具,还拿真实性和所谓的游戏平衡性来充当借口。这种充满着歧视和漠视玩家意见的表现,令玩家失望和愤怒。
Gaijin’s performance when faced with a large amount of data provided by players is to believe what they think is correct. And they would rather use fictional data to complete vehicles that have existed in the game for a long time, such as Leclerc and Ariete, while also using fictional data to enhance some vehicles, and using authenticity and game balance as excuses. This kind of behavior full of discrimination and disregard for player opinions has disappointed and angered players.
十分认同你的观点,尤其是发布新载具时公布资料来源和数据,这非常有利于玩家提前了解载具的性能和制作团队的“用心良苦”
一个个对中系载具合理需求的issues被nab是十分消磨中国玩家热情的,当这个情绪已经到达了冰点的时候,一个玩家的退坑会引起雪崩一样的退坑浪潮,同时中国玩家也看多了游戏厂商作死之后的事后补救,但是这样也只能挽回一小部分人。我们有一句话形容,不是亡羊补牢,因为玩家的耐心已经没有了,已经没得救了,这句话是“他不是知道错了,只是知道自己要死了”
如果gaijin继续保持对中系科技树的敷衍态度,为什么不直接删除
If Gaijin continues to neglect the Chinese tech tree with such a half-hearted approach, why not just remove it entirely?
Если Gaijin продолжит так халатно относиться к китайской ветке разработки, почему бы просто не удалить её полностью?
“If the feature is still incomplete, why do you persistently dismiss issues as ‘not a bug’ and respond to player feedback with perfunctory excuses, instead of transparently stating that it’s still under development?”
I believe that the arrogance and condescension of trickzzter, the administrator of the issue section, has become a significant barrier to communication between the player community and the development team. During the public testing phase of the game, he has repeatedly dismissed en masse the feedback and suggestions from players who identified glaring issues and attempted to help the development team correct these errors. I recommend that the developers formally warn him to take player feedback seriously or consider replacing him. If his behavior is authorized by your team, you might as well shut down the issue section entirely and proceed with haphazard development based on whims.
我认为issue区管理员trickzzter的自大与傲慢是玩家与开发组之间沟通的一个巨大障碍,他屡次在游戏的公开测试环节玩家发现明显问题在issue区进行反馈的时候批量否定各类试图帮助开发组纠正错误的玩家建议,我建议制作组应警告他认真对待玩家的提议,或者换掉他。如果他的行为得到了你们的授意,你们可以把issue直接关掉按你们的臆想胡乱制作。