ragebait 10/10
and the VT4 was exported by the government to thai. and since thai is fixed to japan, you just gotta accept it as much as we accept your reasons of why other countries’ (that btw china is not friendly towards to) stuff is on china tree
Why cant we all just be happy that Japan is getting new tanks. VT-4 is primarily an export tank, why are you guys mad it is getting exported to a country
I’m for them being there, but to me it makes no sense to complain about a Modern MBT used by another nation being under Japan tech tree, but then have vehicles used against your people be in the tree.
Nope. Taiwan is there as they see themselves as “The Republic of China”, while what we call China sees themselves as “The People’s Republic of China”.
They both see themselves as the right China, so put them in a “China” tree.
I personally believe that placing the VT4 within the Japanese tech tree is tantamount to adding Ukraine as a sub-tree to the USSR line or adding Middle Eastern nation vehicles as a sub-tree to the Israeli tech tree.
While this arrangement has some logical basis, it critically lacks a sense of identity/authenticity. In this matter, I believe we should prioritize supporting the side whose feelings have been harmed. The other side, while perhaps disappointed at not getting what they wanted, experiences a different emotion. Comparing the two, the side that was harmed deserves greater consideration. It feels like brushing aside the more serious concerns.
@Ribeyrolles_wy Please stop bringing in politics. It isn’t allowed and we’ve asked to cut it multiple times. Consider this your last warning on the matter.
I support Thailand could have VT-4 only if it’s an independent tech tree to avoid any potential risk.
But there is… no risk? lol its literally putting it at the right place. it just so happens the right place is fixed to japan which no one can control lol
ive mentioned it before, there are always work arounds and compromises
it can be added “sensibly” while respecting both Chinese nationalistic or patriotic views on this, and adding a new vehicle for Thailand
VT-4 is developed for export, I still don’t get how this is so contraversial other than the timing
Chinese players dont want to see their nations tank in another nations TT, thats it
Well the thing is, if they want to be patriotic they should be happy to see their tank being exported (as it was designed to be by the Chinese government)
No there’s only one nation’s TT we don’t want to see our vehicles appear on:Japan.
That’s not a decision could make by me or you, Gaijin must consider the risk it could bring up with. I hope they could make a proper decision to make all of us satisfied.
but you have Japanese vehicles in the chinese tech tree though.
And I’d love an ASEAN tree or a Turkish tree, both of which won’t happen. There’s a Greek and Turkish vehicle in the same tech tree. You have Kazakhstan and Czech aircraft under the USSR. These types of crossroads will always occur.
The only risk is that they might lose some Chinese players. They already rake in a buttload from Premiums, I doubt losing some Chinese players is enough to make them relocate the VT-4.
Now THAT is funny.
There is also Ki-27, Ki-43-III, Ki-44-II, and Ki-61-I. Which form the backbone of low tier china air.
Edit: there is also P1Y1, and Ki-45. I might still be missing one or two.
But japanese vehicles in chinese nation is fine?
Yes vt4 is designed for exporting,but u have to see the intense relationship between China and Japan in the past,now,even the future.And that’s why we dislike seeing our tanks appearing in Japanese TT
I understand now
If we follow your logic that this vehicle was exported, then in reality, would China be able to acquire US-exported F-35s? Of course not! Even exports come with heavy restrictions.
Take the VT4 itself as an example: it has never been exported to Japan.** So then, **why on earth should Japan be able to acquire the VT4 in the game?