The Japanese Navy still uses the rising Sun flag. Is this a device of topic in Asia?
How about the gearbox of the fortress? If it hasn’t been modified, it’s likely to withstand a -4 backlash. In that case, the VT4 is more suitable as an advanced vehicle, at least its forward and backward capabilities are very good
I think so? No clue how to ID the 478M.
Engine deck is a guess since it reportedl has 1500 HP engine in place of the original 6TD.
Quite scarce info. Even then, I haven’t seen anywhere where it’s reported to have a modified transmission which is the case for Thailand’s Oplot-T (Obj 478DU9-T) and other Oplots.
I’m not sure when the Oplot’s transmission was given an adequate reverse gear, but some sources say the Oplot that was trialed by Malaysia (Obj 478DU8) had the reverse speed of 30+ km/h in the year 2000. There’s also T-84 120 Yatagan (Obj 478N) that was trialed by Turkey in 2000, and supposedly had a more refined variant, Obj 478N-1. The earliest I could find about a transmission was the Turkish trials Oplot (Obj 478DU5) that had a ‘new automatic transmission’ in 1997. Even then, it’s still post collapse.
What you’re asking for (T-84/Oplot/Obj 478 with good reverse) is post-collapse, and falls into the ‘Where Ukraine vehicles would go’ category.
At least the Thai Oplot-T would be available to enjoy soon. Perhaps Oplot-P from the Pakistani trials could go to another tree, likely China.
Yeah they’d say something-something, USSR tree not Russia tree. Ukrainian SSR, therefore… the whole spiel. Understandable but still in Gaijin’s hands compared to the T-84 Oplot-T for Thailand clearly going to the Thai branch.
Gaijin does have an incentive to lower modeling costs by using the Oplot in many trees other than Thailand’s branch.
I have searched for information about T84 and VT4 in Thailand. It seems that no relevant records have been found that are compatible with Chinese ammunition. If there is no evidence, T84 may really only have 3BM42. VT4 ammunition, which is currently China’s top ammunition. The engine is the same as the one on the current Chinese TT, with 1200 horsepower and weaker protection. However, because it is lighter, acceleration and speed may be better
You’re right. Maybe the local insiders know more but for now, there’s no concrete evidence.
People were just speculating, and at the end of the day, Gaijin can give whatever ammunition for balancing or other reasons.
As of now, the Chinese ammunition is said to be compatible because Chinese ammunition is backwards compatible. That means even the oldest Chinese 2A46M-based guns (ZPT-98) can use the ammunition.
Oplot-T has the KBA-3 gun which is also based off the 2A46M. People are saying if the gun can shoot it and Thailand bought the ammunition, it’s very well possible.
Several posts below contain the discussion about the Thai Oplot ammunition.
As a Chinese, downward compatibility of weapons has become a feature of China’s weapons development. If China’s top ammunition can be used, the Thai T84 will become a qualified top-level vehicle. If the weight cannot be assigned, it may be up to 11.3
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I have researched a lot of information and found that the T84 model exported to each country is different. It’s very difficult to query. The configuration of Thai vehicles determines the final weight of T84. If we consider balance. Ultimately, it may provide China with top-notch ammunition and a decent gearbox
Same reason I want it added to the Soviet tree too, but people ruin it for others.
maybe ussr can get early t84 as a event.
As in early do you mean the T-84U?
yeah pretty much obiect 478d could be great too. but its not a proper t84
I’m guessing this is a mistake meant to say Japan, but on the same topic I feel like China could also get an Oplot through their most likely subtree candidate Pakistan.
They trialed the Oplot-M in 2015, while a specific Pakistani Oplot-P variant was meant to be adopted if it was chosen.
Oplot-M during trials in Pakistan
Oplot-P during testing in Ukraine
They ended up buying the VT-4 instead, but considering they did trial the tank and even had a nation specific variant made I’d say at the Oplot-P would make for a nice addition in a future Pakistani subtree.
The current Thai version is about to join the Japanese TT, and there is no doubt about the configuration of VT4, most of which are similar to those already present in the game. What is uncertain now is that Thailand T84 will provide written configuration
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VT-4 follows the lineage of Type 90II (CN) (IIRC the 99 series and the 90 series both come from an understudy of T-72, but they are different from each other) and the entire 90 lineage is now completely aimed at arms export. The difference between the 4 and the 4A should be only in electrical system, APS and thermal vision they use, but the shells the VT-4 and the VT-4A use should be already compatible.
Again I’m not an insider of arms trade but from my understanding since the VT-4 series is a completely export-focused model they shouldn’t have the “export version” caveat tanks of the USA/SOV are usually accused of having.
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This is true, but the VT-4A1 in-game is a demonstrator that includes FY-4 ERA on the hull and GL-6 APS that Thailand didn’t buy. It also has a 1300hp engine in-game, while Thailands version is using a 1200hp engine.
So while the VT-4 isn’t necessarily downgraded for export, customers can still choose to configure it based on their needs and budgets.
This means a Thai VT-4 with only FY-2 ERA on the hull, no active protection systems and a weaker engine would be worse, because that is simply the version Thailand chose to buy.
I think the best idea is to ignore players like you altogether, especially given your ridiculous idea of ignoring Chinese players lol.
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i dont think we should ignored chinese players in general of course. i mean that the chinese players whining about thailand getting its own tanks should be wholly ignored.
It is.
Also the Rising Sun flag was never the national flag of Japan.
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