I don’t think Su-57 will be able to sustain a turn rate against F-22. Let’s hope we never find out.
Original su-57 true. But the new su-57m is both lighter with more thrust than the f-22 (not built yet though)
Yeah thats why a Eurofighter defeated the f22 in a real combat test
it was on a training called red flag alaska 2012 and there the eurofighter won the dogfight
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And so did F22 beat eurofighter
i mean TECHNICALLY it would be balance
F35 is HARDLY an issue to deal with given how gaijin poorly model stealth
it doesnt have as much missiles load, like 8? Amraam is shit so it wouldnt even be impactful
its barely mach 2 capable, its comparable to F16 speed, maybe slightly faster
it has nothing to actually fight
radar doesnt matter when everyone can already 90 degree notch
my point was the eurofighter could defeat it and showing people that the f22 is not the best jet in the world i think that it is good in stealth and in real scenarios but this is not the same in war thunder
This is why im telling you people think stuff like this is true
They see an aircraft like this in bf6 or something and think yeah this has to be how the real thing is
This has to be bait
Idk what to say man, f-22 is the pinnacle of air craft, and even the brits wanted it if it wasn’t due to its absurd price before export ban (efa is eurofighter)
just leave it
“Restricted”
is this declassified yo
Do we even know the conditions of that df?
They’re decades old from the British national archive
you say the su 57 wins against the f22 why do you think that
It surely won’t be same in war thunder at all. Maps are way too small and name tags still exist. Also it would still be missing larger scan area like the one found on Eurofighter and SU-30 SM2. Don’t forget that it is still being integrated with HMD so i fully expect gaijin to not add HMD if they add (Assuming no active f22 receive HMD before 5th gen are added). If they seriously don’t add HMD to it i would take F35 over it. So inclusion sure it might be best at BVR in game but idk think it would be best at closer range due to lack of HMD
Mostly because of its missiles and avionics suite. Sure slightly less thrust to weight but better wing loading goes a long way in a dogfight as well (better instantaneous I would bet)
And it would be using AMRAAMS. (Assuming AIM-260 won’t be in service by the time 5th gen are added)
just because it can do a bunch of cobra and kulbit you think its gonna win the dogfight we dont no the exact thrust to weight ratio we dont know its energy retention and the su 35 can do the same stuff