Titans of seas

Maybe EC only? Requiring whatever the equivalent of 2500sp is in that gamemode

Btw that’s really nice remark, thank you. I haven’t even expected fuze delay can also be kinda “tool for balance”…
But I made a little research, it seems latest Type 91 AP 41cm shell (which we don’t have in the game now, but it will surely appear on Nagato from WW2) really had 0.4s fuze delay, but… It seems Type 5 AP shell had 0.2s fuze delay! Unfortunately I couldn’t find info about Type 3 AP shell there. Source - US Naval technical mission to Japan, 1946, O-17 (btw it has really a lot of useful information, not only O-17, but any other too)



And yess, I haven’t mentioned a lot of ships, I just tried to find “TOP BB” of each nation, like Yamato, Bismarck, Littorio and to compare their guns. And usually every country has only 1 best undisputed candidate for being TOP BB, but British is interesting here, I can’t really say which ship can be the best in the game - Vanguard, KG5, Nelson?? Every of them has it’s pros and cons, really interesting situation

Well, I didn’t know that, thanks!
But am I correct, that best (=latest?) shell for British 381mm was APC Mark XXIIb with supercharge? If so, according to Navweaps it has the same TNT, almost same weight (+10kg) to early 381mm, but with super charge shell speed is 809mps, which is not bad (especially if to compare with 750mps standard charge)

But well, still Littorio for example has the same weight of shell, but its speed is 850mps, Richelieu has 830mps… And I just haven’t speak about 406 and higher caliber

And despite Littorio’s guns had really bad dispersion and durability of guns due to it’s over forced guns, but it propably won’t be represented in our game, so… It seems British guns just will be just Ok, maybe medium, but without any outstanding penetration or reload comparing with other nations

But about G3, I voted “yes”, for me it would be interesting to see it in the game, but I think actually it depends on developers policy… I mean, if they won’t be satisfied with proofs that G3 was at least began to be built - maybe they won’t add it… Controversial situation, but let’s hope

And well, unfortunately it seems Gaijins use dispersion as a “balancing tool”. I think they made it really consciously - all 380-410mm guns in game has crazy dispersion and as caliber gets lower, it will be more and more accurate (Kronstadt, Scharnhorst and etc can show it). Actually I can understand why they do that, due to trying to balance it all…
So honestly I don’t really think any reports about shell’s dispersion will work here…

Oh well… Now it seems German 15" will get the worst penetration of all TOP guns! Actually it has logic, the lightest shell from all 15" caliber with not outstanding speed, compare to other nations. But armour will still be really impressive, and reload is super great. So it will be just like Scharnhorst in current battles

And oh wow, I need to upgrade my knowledge about British forces, thanks! And as I have read Lion was really started to built (I didn’t know it previously lol), so… I think we can wait it in the game, maybe it will be even the best British ship. Especially if you say it has such a nice guns, 600mm penetration on 10km sounds really cool! (Actually it will depend on developers decision as I see, but still). But what about 16" Lion’s reload? Were there any improvements from Nelson’s guns or only new shells? Can we hope for at least under 40s reload?

Yeah, which is best changes based upon map, playstyle, etc but they should all be reasonably competitive even vs things like Yamato and Bismark

I reckon as much of it was built as Kronstadt was built. so should be fine imo.

Officially, they dont, which is what is so strange about it. Its being worked on at the moment apparently, so hopefully we can apply some community pressure.

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It was so obvious with the Graf Spee. Suddenly the shell trajectories were like crooked. I can’t find my screenshots I’ve made back then. But since then the whole ship was so underwhelming…long reload and non-existing presision (high dispersion) pretty much killed it. Any 15cm tripple turret light cruiser is far better.

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At present Graf Spee has the exact same accuracy parameters as Scharnhorst. It feels less accurate most likely due to having less guns.

It generally follows the trend of accuracy getting worse as calibre increases, but with some exceptions. For example, the most accurate battleship guns in game are not the German 283mm, but the Russian 305mm (both WW1 and Kronshtadt’s B-50). In addition, Italian 320mm also gets the worst accuracy parameters alongside the 15" and 16" guns for unknown reason.

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Thats odd, its known historically that the 320mm had a pretty bad dispersion thanks to being a rebored 305mm gun. But why single it out specifically to have historical inaccuracy issues?

Seriously the decision making in regards to naval is bizarre.

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Which ships do you think come next update?

USS Colarado was suppose to come last update but was postponed (iirc) so that is quite likely.

A Revenge-Class for Britain is also quite likely given the Soviets got one last update

No idea about other nations at the moment

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Colorado as Febrary naval event

US/GER/JPN at March as they are ‘major’ in WT naval.

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There’s a naval event in February?

Next of current event would be naval one.

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my dude we wont get the yamato any time soon

Perhaps this year. Gaijin mentioned in their future plans for this year more famous and powerful ships.

yes more powerful not most powerful.

more ‘famous and powerful’ ships. High probability of including Yamato. It is not an invincible monster(maybe yes to France)

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They also said ‘to complete’ the complete Japanese tech tree includes Yamato. Perhaps in December we will see Yamato, Iowa, Sovetsky in-game.

“adding the most famous and powerful battleships”

That includes Yamato, Iowa and all that

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I’m still expecting Yamato before HMS Warspite (WW2 refit)

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sure dude…