The VK and the D have ungoverned engines. The F, G and A have governed engines already, which is why they’re slower.
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engines that in many cases were not yet restricted by rpm governors the hl230 could reach its rated 3000 rpm which equated to around 700 horsepower but this placed heavy stress on the engine
in late 1943 a governor was introduced to cap rpm to roughly 2500 2600 reducing usable output to about 600 horsepower this was done to curb overheating and extend engine life by early 1944 the governed setup was standard across production panthers and tigers
as for the tiger ii its prototypes were completed in late 1943 but by the time series production began in 1944 the governor had already been implemented
this means that historically an early 1943 panther a or mid 1943 tiger i could plausibly be modeled as ungoverned while their later 1944 counterparts should be represented with the governed power settings
but panther f and G would always have governed engines because they are 1944 design, but we have hope unlike panther A and maybe tiger E because i don’t know when tiger E start its production but panther A is early 1943 introduction and also the Prototypes of the Tiger II in 1943 run with ungoverned engines before governor panthers rollout form the factory were factory limited
after searching this looks like a mid 1943 tiger 1 ausf e which could have the hl210 or an early hl230 and it plausibly ran without the rpm governor that was only introduced later in 1943 same goes for the panther A with the ungoverned engine with 700hp and top speed of 55km so why does no one report on this we should change these so we can actually have two tanks that feel authentic and they would actually be good again
You could bug report it, but I doubt it would work. If I remember correctly the Panther A we have in the game is a late war variant and therefore suggesting a Panther A Early would probably be more appropriate than a bug report. Such a Panther A could look a number of different ways depending on which vehicle exactly you’re representing, because changes like the domed cupola, mg ball mount etc were introduced gradually early on, and the first As used the D chassis with a slightly altered turret.
I think a Panther G Early could also get an ungoverned engine but it would lack the chin mantlet. Not sure though. NGL, keeping track of all the changes that occurred during Panther production does my head in. I don’t blame Gaijin for skipping straight to a late war configuration.
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Since long i already made such suggestion.
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Cool! Was it ever passed to the devs for consideration?
Nope. You can still vote and add comments.
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Done!
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Historically they tried.
The engines exploded.
And the transmissions destroyed
engines that in many cases were not yet restricted by rpm governors the hl230 could reach its rated 3000 rpm which equated to around 700 horsepower but this placed heavy stress on the engine
Correction, both the Maybach HL 210 and HL 230 were always fitted with a 2 stage centrifugal speed governor. 3000 RPM is also a governed speed for the engines, to corroborate this is the description and operation manual for the Tiger Ausf. H1/E chassis from March 1943, it gives a description of the speed governor:
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“To protect against exceeding the maximum speed, the motor Maybach HL 210 is fitted with a 2 speed governor, which the intake manifold and carburetor have built in throttle valves and, depending on the position of the gas chokes, activating and the controller is driven from the intermediate gear.”
The manual then goes into further detail on the Maybach HL 230’s earlier 2 speed governor:
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“The motor Maybach HL 230 is equipped with a speed governor, which performs the following functions:
1.) Limiting the maximum engine speed
2.) Activiating the 2nd stage of the governer if
a.) The motor is at least 1800 RPM
b.) While running at full load
3.) When the oil pressure drops, the (fuse?) is activated so that
a) the engine speed drops immediately
b) the engine continues to run at 1800 rpm, allowing the tank to be driven to the workshop.”
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“The centrifugal speed governor operates at 3000 rpm. (2nd stage) the throttle installed between the intake manifold and carbuertor spins independently of the position of the gas control chokes, and this prevents exceeding the maximum speed.”
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No, it sayes, it assures / makes shure that if the oilpressure drops, that the RPM directly drops and stayes at 1800 RPM so that you can at least drive back to the workshop.
Its Sichergehen the action of Sicherung. That word in this case has nothing to do with a fuse.
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Thanks, the translator I used for some reason included the word fuse in that sentence which is why I put it in brackets because it didn’t really make sense to me.
I do not know if there is anything of value in these books but look here (pdf):
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Thank you so much! I’ll take a look!
wow thanx for info you are right both the hl210 and hl230 always had centrifugal governors from the start the march 1943 tiger manual confirms this the difference is that in 1943 the governors still allowed engines to reach 3000 rpm but this stressed the engines and led to failures by late 1943 the usable band was tightened to around 2500 to 2600 rpm which cut effective power this is where the confusion comes from so early tigers and panthers were not ungoverned but they did run with looser governor settings while the 1944 machines including the tiger ii were locked to the reduced setting
so i really want to see the PANTHER A and other run at 700hp and add separately?
Jagdtiger SLA 16 is a premium I would def buy
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is grass green?
It depends on the type of grass you’re talking about. Here is about yellowsish green.
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