Don’t like the change to the amx 13.
It really shafted my Israel garage where there are few choices. No way I’m using that and forcing my m51 to fight up to 7.7 vehicles (I get full uptiers A LOT).
Makes no sense to jump it to 6.7. Weak armor, poor reverse speed, and no APDS or Heat rounds, or even HE filler. Will be bouncing a lot of shots off the stronger enemies. Sure it has an autoloader, but what good is that if the gun can’t pen the armor it will be facing?
Once I took a M24 Chaffee to 10.7 and killed three MBTs. Got two Type 90s and a Object 292. I was wheezing by the end of it. Same when I killed a Type 90 through the roof with the Chaffee, not even the cupola, just the roof itself. Chaffee too good.
Ive killed a 292 with the tetrach by slipping a shell through the back bustle box into crew. its so damn funny man.
Sure it can happen. When I’m doing tasks that require rank III, I use a line-up that includes the m24 because at a low BR of 3.3 it’s still rank III. Unlike many 4.3 vehicles which are still rank II.
Issue is, it won’t consistently overperform - especially the amx-13.
IMHO the m24 should probably be 3.7. It’s fast, has decent gun, and has .50 cal mg.
Have not looked closely at the AMX M4 recently. What BR are they moving it to? If it’s 7.0 I wont notice a diff as I use it with other 7.0 vehicles.
It’s just more proof that Gaijin hates minor nation players.
It’s only 3.3 in Arcade. I play RB, so it’s 3.7 there.
Gaijin still doesn’t realize that these fast load speed tanks are pretty easy to deal with those light armor tanks above 7.0, then their BR will getting worse lmao
Ahhh… kinda like the m18 jumps up in RB. Really m24 should prob be 3.7 in both.
So the AMX M4 is now 7.0 along with a bunch of rank V French vehicles. Another tweak that did not need to happen. Has better gun than m26, but gives up a significant amount of armor compared to the m26 (less survivability).
Zero point to them, gaijin just continues to punish smaller nations for having smaller playerbases with more experienced players.
Overall fine changes.
The AMX-40 with its mobility, hull armor, and good round being 10.0 is a change I’ve honestly been waiting for.
AMX-40 being a lower BR than the Leopard 2K was hilarious and imbalanced.
France’s 8.0 lineup is good.
France being treated like everyone else is nice.
Did they also bump the Fox (UK) light tank from 7.3 to 7.7?
WOW!
Scimitar and Fox were barely playable at 7.3
That was a change that did not need to be made.
i’m already prepared :
Moved the entire line up to 10.0 for the memes
The worst thing is, it’s somewhat usable. Now of course the above screenshots are one of the best games i had, but this line up consistantly gets me at least a few kills, and i rarely end up at the bottom, which in on itself is quite depressing
Hard to say, the only justified change for me is AMXM4, AMX13 is definitely playable but probably not as good now.
As for AMX40 vs Leo2K, the advantage of amx40 is having ess + thermal, but your fixed optics making it really hard to use in close battles with a bunch of obstacles. 2K having better mobility, stabilized 20 mm with good placement, and has better pen with good optics. I think 9.7 vs 10.0 is justified
2K and AMX-40 have similar mobility.
Stabilized 20mm does not matter.
2K and AMX-40 have extremely similar pen.
AMX-40 has a protected hull.
The fact AMX-40 was under-BR’d for so long was hilarious.
The reverse speed is quite different, and stabilized 20mm matters; it gives you better reaction time against those IFVs, and the placement means u can engage air target. As for hull protection, both of them have no armor against the majority of shells in this br, with enough armor to stop autocanons.
AMX40 does have composite so against heat its better, but what kind of vehicle around this br uses heat as their main shell?
They are pretty similar after all, but I wouldn’t say its under br, but more like within an acceptable range
“france being treated like everyone else is nice” nice glazing, amx-13 was mid at 6.7 compared to other light tanks, with only real advantage of an autoloader, and the char 25t is just nuts how its still 8.0
@adamjalmuzny
Autoloader 90mm APHE slinger that’s rather mobile for its BR with light tank benefits.
Granted, there are a couple 8.0 light tanks that could/should be 8.3.
For a really long time AMX 32 was not on an equal br with the Leo 1 L44 while both were literally almost the same in performance. Actually I’m not even sure that the 32-105 is on the same br as leo 1a5
You’re missing by far the biggest disadvantage of the AMX-40, the gun handling.
The AMX-40’s turret is WW2 levels of slow, at 14.9 degrees/second stock for the horizontal traverse, which is actually slower than the Sherman and T-34 turret traverses.
The vertical traverse is also pretty bad for the tier, at 4.2 degrees/second. Not as bad as the Soviets, but a lot closer to them than other NATO MBTs.
Meanwhile, the 2K has Leopard 2 levels of horizonal traverse (At 23.8 degree/second), and much better vertical at 11.2 degrees/second.
This gives the Leo 2K a huge advantage in flexibility, with the ability to effortlessly react to new threats and engage multiple targets as well. This is a big deal at the tier, where you start to see both a switch to highly mobile, armored MBTs, and hordes of recklessly aggressive premium players who will just attempt to rush you from random angles with little to no warning.
Then there’s the 20mm. The AMX-40’s one is coaxially mounted. This ties it’s traverse to the turret, which is slow. Even worse, while it has some vertical traverse, it’s also mounted in the mantlet, meaning the gun vertical traverse also affects it. This means, if you want to engage a helicopter, you have to traverse up, which gets the gun on target, then wait as the gun overcorrects due to the mantlet also moving up, before it finally settles on target several seconds later.
Meanwhile, the 2K’s 20mm is in it’s own turret, with incredible turret traverse and great firing angles. It can also be used to poke from behind cover to engage very lightly armored vehicles without risking taking a hit in return.
Go ahead and find me any 8.7 round that cannot pen the AMX-40’s composite armor at up to a kilometer. I’ll wait.
The AUF1 now has a line up. though the AMX 13 is only faster than the average in the forward direction and the autoloader with solid shot will only get you so far when heavy tanks are the common trend around these BRs. BUT it is mostly .50 cal resistant so i think its acceptable
The AMX M4 is a menace when the player has basic awareness.
