Even if the cheater hero is banned now, he can still make a new account and troll again…
Pretty much, Kernel Level provides better protection at the cost of privacy and security. If the anticheat driver is taken advantage of (like it was in Genshin and another game), it risks every single players computer. That means credit card information, accounts, emails, addresses, pretty much anything. Not to mention I wouldn’t trust Gaijin with full control of my PC when they break a core feature of the game every update (this update it was APHE/HE, last update it was Missiles) and allow stupid vulnerabilities like this to occur.
Agreed on the ones you mention, but you also have to add:
–Crashing of custom game servers with the rainbow name exploit last year (apparently 15k player kicks on at least one occasion);
–Typing in in game chat as another person, using their name, and
–Theft of proprietal tables of all player IDs and names for the Statshark live game stats viewer thing, as well as theft of company winrates and player count data by nation, mode and BR.
Seems the guy had a mix of some knowledge of game code vulns but also some level of unauthorized network access to do all that.
Also the point of waiting until a CC was in-game to crash them out wasn’t necessarily because they could only to do it then, it was to crash them out WHEN they were streaming and everyone could see you do it.
(For the record, I think the title of this thread should be changed, Pluspy didn’t “run” Statshark, he was just obtaining company data for them, by all accounts.)
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Gaijin already uses kernel level anticheat.
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still extremley concerning that a guy with such a history is now running such a valuable tool for game analysis. If only gaijin had their own statshark equivalent so we could actually see whats going on
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Yes both EAC and BattleEye are Kernel Level. However so are most Cheats so Kernel-Level AC don’t really do much.
So the guy Pluspy who is accused of various things is a previous associate of Hadi, the actual Statshark guy. Pluspy chose to leave Statshark’s Discord after helping his friend lift some data for a couple projects when this came to light a couple days ago.
Hadi is only accused of having a sketchy hacker friend, and encouraging them to do sketchy things with his hacker skills even before Statshark, and using corporate data his friend stole for him for the benefit of his site. He says he doesn’t have any such access or ability to hack other players himself without Pluspy and I tend to believe him. Just to be clear.
I agree Hadi had to distance himself to keep Statshark’s credibility going forward, and that Gaijin should give players more data, including better service records so these sketchy services like Thunderskill and Statshark would be less useful.
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Using questionably aquired data makes you just as questionable tbh, especially when its for the personal gain like making statshark what it is now. I dont trust it myself
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Fair. So long as it was just lifting the real country winrates, you could argue there was public benefit to the hack. Once they started lifting more data to support a controversial feature like the in-game stat checker that not everybody in the community would support… Well that’s when people started to pay attention to who was involved, and now here we are, isn’t it?
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Bruh, I didn’t know about all that. Good riddance this guy left statshark/got his access removed by gaijin.
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If you mean Pluspy, he’s said nothing like that. He’s quietly parted from Statshark, I’m sure so he can keep doing whatever he wants without involving them. I believe Hadi when he says he and Statshark have no corporate data access if they no longer have Pluspy’s ability to pull it for them covertly.
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Can we not ban that dude or something?? His runining people account…
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Apparently he seems to have quite the influence. Else he should have been gone for good LONG ago.
Somehow just being casually accepted that he Cheats ('cause he only used that for himself…?) and that they all know of it, what he did and even encouraged him on. They didn’t even kicked him out entirely; they just said they ‘talked to him and ensured it doesn’t happen again’ but didn’t disassociate from him entirely
Its the most basic cooperate like slop self-investigation when they have to admit of having done something bad but dont do anything about it and continue as usual.
that guy doesn’t even have to do much else but just change his account/name and then continue as usual while they can say they removed him…one can already predict that it won’t take long that it surprise surprise turns out he just continued with it including working with them
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Exactly. Leaked chat records indicate that he was asked to perform certain actions for entertainment purposes. If it is accurate that this individual assisted them in generating revenue through the Shark platform—thereby profiting from another company’s product or service—and further, if he exploited or breached any code or system vulnerabilities, then legal action appears to be an imminent possibility.
If they choose not to pursue Shark or its affiliates for any potential misconduct through proper legal channels, it would suggest that there is no firm backbone or integrity behind their actions, implying that such behavior is considered normal practice within their operations. However, if they do proceed legally, it would demonstrate that they do have such principles — which makes the situation even more concerning and unacceptable. In any case, reputational damage has already occurred. There is video evidence circulating, and it is only a matter of time before the wider community, content creators, and media platforms take notice.
Hoping gaijin takes some sort of legal action against this guy, if they are able to figure out who he is to do that of course.
Anyway does anyone know any potential safety measures to take to ensure your account’s safety other than not playing the game until this is sorted out? I’d assume turning of chat may help but I don’t know if it can be worked around…
It’s not all about chat. If he can alter chat, what else can he do? Maybe he can add or remove items from your inventory. Maybe he can access other features, like leaving your squadron or doing strange things with your account. For example, he mentioned that he could deny access to an account by spamming logins.
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Very unlikely unless he was directly costing them money, like being able to gain free services etc.
Gaijin literally ignored the rape and pillage of their systems for years by hackers until the players revolted against them over it (and many other things).
OTOH
It costs a lot to take someone to court, usually far more than the actual damages/what they can get out of an offender. So boning up on system security and booting cheaters is a far more effective means from their perspective.
Remember this guy is blamed/credited for the “Nord hack”. Where he would wipe entire lobbies.
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Yeah, but the sharks sold their services, and they’re not small. If those services were provided by someone who violated intellectual property, that’s considered property theft and collateral damage. In legal terms, that would fall under intellectual property infringement and possibly civil liability for damages.