This gotta move to 11.7

Congratulations you are found what uptier is.
Now let see how you keep hitting that wall again and again and again, doing the same thing all over.

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It’s definitely helpful in some very limited circumstances, but it doesn’t matter when you’re disabled on the first shot.

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It’s definitely helpful in some very limited circumstances

Nonsense. It’s very helpful in most circumstances. The number of times I have died because my reload was a fraction of a second too slow is countless. Reload is one of the favoured statistics for tournament players as well as seen in the latest ground tournament a few months ago.

You can always aim better, you can’t change your reload though no matter how skilled you are.

but it doesn’t matter when you’re disabled on the first shot.

If you get disabled first shot then nothing matters because you’re dead anyway so this isn’t an argument against reload speed.

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exactly. reload speed means nothing when you’re disabled on the first shot

exactly. reload speed means nothing when you’re disabled on the first shot

Did you miss everything I just said? You know what else doesn’t matter if you get disabled on first shot? Literally everything about the vehicle. This is not an argument against reload speed.

Mobility? Doesn’t matter if you get disabled first shot.
Armour? Doesn’t matter if you get disabled first shot.
Firepower? Doesn’t matter if you get disabled first shot.

If you got shot and got disabled then you’ve messed up and you’re most likely dead unless you’re far away enough to repair before you get pushed and taken out.

This just in! Tanks that are higher BR than your tank are stronger than your tank!

Shocking news! More at 11!

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the everything else determines what the first shot will be. reload speed has no say in that.

As I’ve already said.

You can aim better.
You can’t reload faster.

Then I guess the Obj 292 is the worst MBT in Warthunder because reload speed is all that ever matters in your mind.

reload speed is all that ever matters in your mind.

Never said this. What I said is that reload speed is incredibly powerful and is a hard cap that cannot be improved with player skill.

And I’ve definitely died in the 292 because of the long reload before.

The fact is reload is incredibly potent and no matter how good you are at the game you are hard capped by it.

You rely far too much on reload.

You rely far too much on reload.

Tell that to the tournament players.

the amor on it is pretty bad

Some still don’t understand how even 0.5 [s] of reload time can change the outcome of the battle.

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No, I’m not, but you are the issue here, I mean your play style. You could have a point of a badly armored MBT being “OP”, which isn’t, but after showing that image of you driving in the open, it was more than enough to know that the issue here isn’t the Type 90.

Come on now the M1 reload buff makes them pretty scary to try and peak and get shots off.
To say it’s made no difference is wild.

There is a reason all the French autoloader tanks are at like 8.0…Reload

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Give it a better round and put it at 12.0.

4 second reload on a vehicle that can outmaneuver most MBT’s even at 12.0 is extreme.

I’m tired of seeing entire teams get eaten alive at 10.3 by one or two of these on their own. It’s silly.

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As mentioned before this is what happens with uptiers! Did you guys at 10.0-10.3 complain when you were murdering 9.0 tanks that coudnt pen your armour?

A balanced tank will always struggle in an uptier

No. This would be like putting a Somua SM against a Tiger 1.

What exactly is a Challenger Mk.2 going to do against a Type 90? What about a T-72B? These vehicles do not deserve this abuse. It’s utterly ridiculous.

The Type 90 is a better vehicle than the best Ariete and it sits 0.7 Batte Ratings lower.

Just once, realize how stupid this is. It’s insanity to pretend this isn’t a problem.

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CR1 Mk2 has L23A1 you can deal with both tanks, yes CR1 isnt a great tank.

It’s been a problem for years as the saying goes the only way to avoid uptiers is to play top tier.