Modifying the thrust curve of the WS-10B should not be very complicated, but it has a significant impact on the flight performance of the J-15T at high altitudes and high speeds. It is the key factor that determines whether the combat performance of the J-15T can reach the passing level of 14.7. I hope the game developers will notice and attach importance to this point.
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The engine thrust envelope must be scaled up proportionally based on the static thrust of the previous model. This is the most fundamental requirement.The ram effect coefficient of the WS‑10B should be equal to or even higher than that of the WS‑10A, since the WS‑10B is a more advanced engine.
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The performance of WS10B in high-altitude output is currently too poor, and it deserves further enhancement
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Is everyone here just saying the same thing over and over or…?
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I think they’re all saying the exact sa- The performance of the WS-10B must be improved.
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俄国佬还以为他们用的破烂和我们一样😂
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Everyone says this because the thrust-to-weight ratio of the WS-10B is simply terrible compared to other engines at 14.7 BR.
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Because this is the core demand of Chinese players. We have already tried every other way to convince Gaijin.
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I fully agree with the points made by this player and would like to offer some suggestions to the game developers.
Dear Developers,
I sincerely hope you can see this comment.
Regarding the thrust envelope and weight issues of the WS-10B, I have two suggestions. First, to clarify: the WS-10B is an improved version based on the WS-10A. In the game, the WS-10A weighs 1520 kg, while the WS-10B is set at 1795 kg. Under the same engine calculation standard, the thrust improvement shown in the game would make such a WS-10B design a failure in reality. The PLAAF would never accept or procure it, and the responsible personnel could even be held accountable.
Suggestion 1: If you believe the data source you use follows the unified weight standard applied to most engines in the game, i.e., keeping the WS-10B at 1795 kg, then we can reasonably infer that the WS-10B uses the CM56 core engine, which shares the same origin as the F110.
With an increase of about 200 kg, Chinese engine designers must have added extra compressor stages and other structures to improve intake pressure and ram effect at high altitude and high speed. Otherwise, the PLAAF would not adopt it.Therefore, the WS-10B in the game should be given a high ram coefficient similar to the F110-GE-129 engine used in the F-16C Block 50, which is in the same weight class and uses the same core engine.
Suggestion 2: If you believe the thrust envelope coefficient of the WS-10B should be the same as or only slightly better than the WS-10A, then under this premise, the improvement of the WS-10B should not result in excessive weight gain. Its weight should be close to the 1520 kg of the WS-10A.
A reasonable explanation is that there are different standards for engine weight measurement. Whether various components and accessories are included in the weight can lead to significant differences in data from different sources.
At the same time, it should be made clear that the thrust and ram envelope coefficient in the game is even worse than that of the WS‑10A, which is obviously illogical and unacceptable to players.
We hope you will take the sincere suggestions from players seriously.We would prefer the J‑15T to be added to the game with reasonable and realistic performance to attract more players to enjoy War Thunder together,rather than being introduced as an unfinished vehicle that leaves players completely uninterested.
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I don’t understand. The Chinese player base is so large. Why is every new Chinese vehicle made this way, only to trigger another wave of protests within the Chinese gaming community?
Nowadays, whenever a new player joins the Chinese gaming community, they will always be advised by veteran players not to play the Chinese faction.
The Gaijin development team spends manpower and resources developing modern Chinese vehicles, yet they face unified rejection from Chinese players, who urge new players to choose other national factions through all channels.
Is this really the outcome your company wants?
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老实说ws10b直接关乎中空未来，做的这么糟糕，实在是忍无可忍了
Honestly speaking, from my observation, most players do not approve of the current performance of the J‑15T on the test server. It neither meets the strength expected at its top battle rating, nor does it reflect its real‑life performance.
It is widely believed that with its current performance, the J‑15T is simply not worth players grinding a new tech tree for, nor is it worth adding to War Thunder. No one will buy a premium pack for it, except players who only collect aircraft models.
I truly hope the J‑15T can attract more new players to the game. However, the test server is about to close, and these reasonable changes, which would only take minimal effort, have not been implemented at all.
Regarding just the WS‑10B engine, there are only two logical solutions:
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Either recognize that the engine weight is a data standard issue:Set the weight back to around 1520 kg, restore the static thrust to 13880 kgf, and ensure the thrust envelope coefficient is **not lower than that of the WS‑10A.
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Or accept that the WS‑10B’s increased weight comes from improved components such as compressors:Adjust the thrust envelope coefficient of the WS‑10B to a level similar to the F110‑GE‑129, which shares the same CM56 core and has a comparable weight.
All the above changes are based on solid and reasonable real‑world evidence.As the test server is closing soon, I hope the developers will adopt these suggestions to help War Thunder develop better.
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Gaijin consistently disregards, and even intentionally overlooks, the legitimate requests of its players. Such a company exemplifies arrogance, which will inevitably diminish players’ enthusiasm for the game and ultimately prompt them to abandon it altogether. The matter is quite straightforward, nothing more to it！！！
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If the WS‑10B can’t be developed properly, the performance of the J‑15T won’t be up to par among top-tier carrier-based fighters.
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The performance of the WS‑10B makes the J‑15T’s flight performance too poor; the J‑15T should be placed at 14.3.
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