The top tier Leopard 2 problem, attrition and time to kill

I also hope to see the performance of Leopard 2A7 and 122 remain consistent, and there is no contradiction between these two suggestions

ship?
if you meant to talk about the hull ammo rack of the leo, it is a secondary ammo rack. it is not supposed to be filled first or used first.

but it does exist, doesn’t it? The T90M turret also has some ammunition that cannot be cleared, a deliberately created weakness. This means of balance already exists in the game.

I’m just presenting my ideas. As you said, improving BR is also a feasible solution. But what exactly to do is up to gaijin

They aren’t consistent at all though? 122 has;

  • better acceleration
  • better top speed
  • much better armour
  • none of the weakpoints

Currently the only two aspects where 2A7Vs performance exceeds that of the 122 is;

  • thermals
  • raw penetration

Nothing else. Everything other than those two is in 122s favour.

The T90M turret also has some ammunition that cannot be cleared, a deliberately created weakness. This means of balance already exists in the game.

Since when can it not be cleared? If it isn’t a first stage ammo rack, it can be clearead all the same. It’s people who simply refuse to take less ammunition.

yes, that’s why I said I hope to see them consistent

I didn’t notice they made the modification. T90M had this issue before.

I can’t really comment with 100% certainty, could be a bug (there was a point in time when Leo 2s would spawn with full ammo load irrespective of how many they actually selected in the loadout screen).

T-90M should have been 11.3 , it isn’t even close to 2A7 in any way.

3BM60: One of the worst top tier APFSDS shells in the game, along with China and France. Doesn’t even compare to DM53

Worst top tier soviet mobility: Heaviest soviet MBT with weakest engine at top tier. 2A7 has better HP/W ratio than T-90M.

Slowest reloading top tier MBT in the game: 7+ seconds no matter what crew skill you have. Even though many sources state T-90M uses T-80 autoloader with 6.5 seconds reload.

Dies in 1 shot compared to 2A7 absorbing many shots with it’s spall liner, big crew and spacious interior.

I got my 2A7 a day ago and I have 80% + winrate in it.

Don’t soil yourself.

3BM60: One of the worst top tier APFSDS shells in the game, along with China and France. Doesn’t even compare to DM53

Can DM53 perforate everything i.e lol-pen with no issues anywhere it hits? No. There’s no difference then. BM-60 spalls better though.

Dies in 1 shot compared to 2A7 absorbing many shots with it’s spall liner, big crew and spacious interior.

Totally bro, i’ll just remind my JM33 on the Type 90 to not one shot 2A7Vs anymore, i’m sure it will listen to me.

I got my 2A7 a day ago and I have 80% + winrate in it.

You have 8 games with a K/D of 1.6

Wow, such a huge statistic pool. My 2A7V sat at 100% WR a few weeks ago, at the time I had played a total of 7 matches.

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BS. “DM53 penetration advantage doesnt make a difference”. Lmao.

Should i remind you that DM53 might get a buff due to the Shell ingame having wrong density

It won’t get a buff. Trust me. With how high leo winrate is, it won’t. If it does get a buff, it will happen when stuff like T-14 gets added.

Russia received buffs when T-80BVM was sitting at ~80% WR, lol.

If it does get a buff, it will happen when stuff like T-14 gets added.

“Gaijin!!! Rossiya sufferz gib T-14!!!111”

Ignoring the fact T-14 is in a league of its own due to its unmanned turret design, but hey, DM53 being more accurate totally 200% justifies the addition of an MBT that would be the end of top tier.

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Mmh.

Totally justifiable for 10.3s facing T-90Ms.

Flat pen might be lower than DM53 but 3BM60 isnt usually fired at russian tanks.

3BM60 was, until addition of 2A7V, able to UFP most if not all NATO mbts bar Strv122s, and if not UFP due to odd angle, cut straight through the armor anywhere else.

Yet here you are, painting it like WW2 shell.

Ok, I agree with the compression part.

2A7/Swedish Leo > 12.0
T-90M stays at 11.7
Abrams, Leclerc stays at 11.7

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Make sure to mention 2A7V being 100% fixed as well :)))

Let me present you:
L27A1 and OFL 120 F1

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Literally will be breech repair simulator. However, i think Gaijin will go for soviet prototypes (Obj 477) before the T-14 for balance reasons.

Well that is not how it works the problem of the 2A7V it’s that is too good for current war thunder and other leopard variant should’ve been added not the 2A7V but if You wanna artificially nerf the vehicle that’s gonna make germany’s Best vehicle worse because of people not blowing when to aim artificial nerf it’s not needed Br’s are for balancing, germany is not getting any new top tier MBT comparable to the 2A7V at the moment that is why they should’ve done this slowly instead of bringing the 2A7V in one go

In conclussion the 2A7V it’s top for germany as of rn unless we get more info of the 2A8, so artificially nerfing something cuz You can’t aim at a weakspot that has been present on the strv 122’s for years it’s frankly stupid without the desire to offend my goal is to explain that 2A7 is being artificially nerfed and if your top tank gets artificially nerfed cuz of armor holes that are not meant to be there because that is an issue of the model then yeah of course you would want it fixed

Idk what are those sources, but every image of T-90M shows classcial T-72/90 AL

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