Both are good where they are IMO, bringing them up to 7.0 would make them borderline unplayable, imagine a King Tiger facing a Strv 103. I agree the M26 should be a bit lower, but the IS-2 '44 and the T-44 being weak? I don’t agree with that.
is2 1944 is pathetic. Less pen than at tiger 2 at double the reload and significantly worse armor.
T44 only functions because the russian 85mm still makes no sense at all. They have a 135 pen shell that pens 80mm armor at 60 degrees. ‘blunt nosed shell’ bullshit thats artifically inflated to godlike slope pen capabilites.
BR-471D pens almost the same as the PzGr 39/43 at the cost of less explosive mass compared to the BR-471B, I’ve never had any real issue with that.
Except for the front of the turret and the LFP the rest is alright (frontally).
The IS-2 has its ups and downs but in no way it’s pathetic, its gun deletes anything that’s penetrated. It’s an alright tank.
they just need to buff its reload 20seconds for a round spaded is insane
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so everyone shoots your turret. you have 100mm frontal turret. thats effectively medium tank armor at 6.7.
You have a 27s reload, so a tiger 2 will get 3 shots in for your 1. You are slower than a tiger 2. literally nothing about your tank is comparable to a tiger 2. The only things you stack up well against are downteir vehicles when in in scenarios where you can freely retreat. Rare and not a heavy tank’s role. Done by nearly every other 6.7 better than you.
IS2 was great at 6.0, mediocre at 6.3, and awful at 6.7. There is a reason you rarely see them anymore since the is1 does the same job just as well without the huge BR bloat.
No it isn’t fine, the T26E5 is objectively worse in literally every single way except for a few points of gun depression (not large enough to make a significant difference), and they should not be the same BR with the piss poor gun the T26E5 has at that BR.
T26E1-1 is also just objectively worse, having worse mobility than the Tiger 2 H which is pretty insane, a worse gun with a way worse reload, and a much worse armor profile. Again, objectively inferior in almost every way.
IS-2 is worse than both of the above, and the Object 268 is as well, I don’t know how that thing is even remotely a 6.7 …
Tiger 2 H is way too strong for its BR and should f off to 7.0
Late/postwar WW2 brs are way to compressed, gaijin doesn’t really ever touch these outside the pass they did a while back moving up a bunch of cold war stuff to 7.3 minumum.
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objectively worse
what is turret armor
Found the smartest us player
Another Whiney thread, this is why the term skill issue exists.
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How is 177 mm cast armor better than 185 mm rolled armor? If it had the actual IRL values of 220 mm, then it would have better turret armor, which still wouldn’t excuse the frontal hull weakspots, the hull being overall way weaker and the massively worse gun on the T26E5 vs the Tiger 2 H.
You literally have no arguments for why they are the same BR, and nobody else does either. T26E5 is objectively worse and shouldn’t be the same BR.
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do you actually play this game or do you just look at statcards to try come up with a argument?
Only if they decompressed the game heavily, cause without that the tiger2h would just be made pretty useless
It would just kill an iconic vehicle off. They need to decompress first. Stuff like T26E5 and T34 would go up too though.
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“Heavy tanks are acting like heavy tanks, please nerf”-op
You could have at least put a single braincell in your baiting, but since you haven’t, I’ll give you a badge of shame:
The real problem with IS2 is the loading speed. When IS2 confronts the Tiger King head-on, the loading time for one shot is enough for the Tiger King to fire three shots. Moreover, the IS2 turret has a poorly armored commander’s tower, which cannot even withstand the firing of 88mm and 76mm guns. Obviously, the Tiger King H does not have such a problem. The protection of the IS2 turret is far inferior to that of the Tiger King H, and the depression angle of the IS2 is only -3 °, which makes it unable to adapt to the terrain that most Tiger Kings can adapt to
idiots like you who only look at stat cards