The Ta152 c-3 is the saddest prop in the game

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The ta-152 C3 is probably the worstly BR’d plane in the game, and one of the most brutally nerfed aircraft. To add more salt to the wound: it’s more fragile than a zero. A single 50 cal from 1km away is enough to not critically damage it, not even causing a fire, but straight up blow you up. Yes the plane is somewhat fast and has a good engine, but you can’t really rely on energy trapping everyone since your enemies are always p51h’s and these, these are “ENERGY” themselves.

It’s guns are… okay i guess? IDK, I keep getting simple hits on american planes, missing stalled enemies because the mg151’s travel at 600 something (for minengeschoss since they have rounder tips)

this thing’s lowest enemies absolutely outperform it in every metric. I’d put this plane at 4.3 on it’s current state at best, regardless “how much gun”, mg151s are not compatible with jet combat or super props alone, especially american ones that will tank a 30mm to the face and keep flying fine.

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The Ta 152C-3 is mainly an aircraft specifically for boom + zooming and head-on attacks with its forward heavy armament combo while the Ta 152H-1 is far better suited for dogfights and turnfighting other props.

4.3 is a ridiculously low BR for the Ta 152C-3, 5.7 or 6.0 would be more sensible.
I’d say it doesn’t seem too good nowadays mainly because it’s a victim of BR compression with Korean War jets and allied late props.

It can still be a powerful aircraft that be can used effectively with a different playstyle as aforementioned above.

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thats nice, i cant wait for them to remove planes from the game

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6.0 maybe but def not 4.3 lol, a C3 pilot with half a brain would do pretty well, arguably 1 of the best prop. Try the J7W1, G.56 and Re.2005 then go cry about your sad German plane. Also the C3 shred in GRB with the Mk103 and 4x 20mm.

Another one of Mantis cope post

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one of the best prop? My guy, the dora out climbs it even without air spawn 😂

@Sir_Rebral_Palsy the c3 is not a great boom and zoom aircraft because it’s high speed handling is atrocious. It’s a suicidal trader and nothing more else. It’s a third party machine.

I just came from a 7 kill match.

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Funny how you haven’t played a single game with the ta152c3…

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true i was expecting a banger plane but its pretty bad

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I’m fine with keeping the BR as is—just do something about the mobility.

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how will you BnZ with enemies that have climb that is like twice as good as yours?

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uhmmmm no? its a fw190 thats heavier at 6.3 (reminder its the same br as the p51h which is just better in every metric)

oh well would be nice if planes would have separated BRs in different gamemodes…oh wait

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90% of people doesn’t know that exist, which is why you have the Yak-9T and 4.0 in AB when it is simply a worse Yak-9. Oh boy I can’t wait for tank players to send the J7W1 to 7.0, or maybe they send it to 5.0 because they keep trying to unlock the aphe belt, no in-between.

Also Mk-103 is like, really inaccurate same with Type 5, only applies to 30mils tho, past that and accuracy fixes itself.

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how will you BnZ with enemies that have climb that is like twice as good as yours?

The DB 603 engine in the Ta-152 C-3 performs best only for specifically mid-altitude combat, unlike the high-altitude Ta-152H-1 with the Jumo 213E engine.

There is no incentive to really climb high, only to perform worse against faster-climbing interceptors and fighters anyway.

The Ta-152C-3 honestly works as a support/situational fighter, as it is terrible in 1v1s and dogfights.

It definitely takes skill to use and is much harder to make work compared to something like a Spitfire Mk. 22 or P-51H-5.

I found that if you get used to the aiming ballistics of the 20 mm M.G. 151s and the 30 mm M.K. 103, the Ta-152 C-3 can be quite up there in one of the scariest props to do head-ons against.

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i can steal kills in every plane that has a working gun

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my brother in christ, even the j5n1 knicks the ta152C in every department and the j5n1 is way worse than the xp50.

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@Shrek_2_On_DVD you barely played 20 battles on the ta152C3 and you say it’s an amazing plane? You know who also has over 2kd in it and has over 50 battles in it? Me. And the plane sucks. If it was a heavier more powerful Dora it would be an absolute favorite, but it’s not only less powerful, but it lacks all the shining aspects of a Wurger that make a Wurger be a Wurger, such as: tough airframe, excellent top speed, and HIGH SPEED MANEUVERABILITY PRESERVATION! this thing compresses MORE than the MiG I225.

@lynx15 “Support” and “Situational” fighter are great euphemisms for “useless plane with big gun that only works through playing like a parasite”.

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You know who also has over 2kd in it and has over 50 battles in it? Me.

Good for you, I guess?

you say it’s an amazing plane?

Did any of my previous posts directly mention or state “amazing” for the Ta-152C-3?

I only said that the Ta-152C-3 is effective when used with a different playstyle.

Me. And the plane sucks.

Then don’t play it?

There is literally another variant of the Ta-152 with a lower BR of 6.0, which is way lighter and undoubtedly one of the best MEC and prop-turn fighters at high altitudes, if that’s more to your liking.

I also previously stated that the Ta-152C-3 does need a BR decrease due to compression, but setting it as low as 4.3 BR, as you suggested, is just borderline idiocy considering it still has an interceptor airspawn.

If it was a heavier more powerful Dora it would be an absolute favorite, but it’s not only less powerful, but it lacks all the shining aspects of a Wurger that make a Wurger be a Wurger, such as: tough airframe, excellent top speed, and HIGH SPEED MANEUVERABILITY PRESERVATION! this thing compresses MORE than the MiG I225.

I don’t think you understand how heavy a full combined armament of 4 x 20mm + 1 x 30mm cannons can affect an aircraft’s performance with regard to speed and maneuverability.

Even for high-speed maneuvers, it would bleed alot of speed in one turn/circle just as much as an F/A-18 Hornet does with a full AMRAAM loadout.

The Ta-152 C-3 is a further evolution of the Fw 190 Dora, but strapped with as many guns as possible to intercept Allied bombers at medium altitudes late in the war. It was literally never intended or designed to dogfight in the first place.

Also, the I-225, has elongated wings just like the Ta-152 H-1, so it being able to compress less than the Ta 152 C-3 isn’t really a surprise?

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with the airspawn it should prob be like 5.3 or 5.0
without the lowest br i can think about ot being would be 4.7
but 4.3 is just way too low