The T-72B3 ‘Arena’ needs to be adjusted to 11.3.The T-72B3 ‘Arena’ needs to be adjusted to 11.3. It has thick armor and the 3BM60 APFSDS. The ZTZ-99 (III) at 11.0 has almost the same armor but lacks the Arena active protection system. As usual, an active protection system deserves an increase of 0.3 in weighting. At the same time, the T-72B3 ‘Arena’ has the top-tier 3BM60, making an 11.0 weighting very unfair. This directly ruins the gameplay experience. I acknowledge that it has serious mobility issues, but that is not an excuse to avoid increasing its weight (the ZTZ-99 also has a -4 reverse speed).The T-72B3 ‘Arena’ has an active protection system compared to the T-72B3, but at the LOW BR11.0, isn’t that kind of ridiculous?
It has no Relikt ERA, the APS doesn’t even save the tank from major damage when it comes to large AGMs, it’s super slow, and it doesn’t have stacks on stacks of ERA plates like the regular B3. I play it at 11.3 anyways but it is really not good enough to be there. The only ones who seem mad about it are Spike spammers like CVR Block 2’s, EBRC Jaguars, Pumas, etc.
Even the 2S25M gets 3BM60 and that sits at 10.0. It is really only as good as DM33 with how much it will ricochet or “ghost” through things. The only cool thing about it really is the paint job.
The armor of Soviet and Russian tanks is terrifying. In China, we call the T-80BVM a ‘wheelchair’ because it’s so powerful that you don’t really need to operate it seriously, hahaha.
In my opinion, the ZTZ-99s are DRASTICALLY superior to T-72B3 Arena, and still superior to T-90A too.
The ZTZ-99s have significantly better mobility while sharing firepower (slightly worse gun handling) and armor (maybe slightly better, even) compared to Arena; and also better gun handling compared to T-90A.
The 11.0 lineup as a whole is drastically superior as well;
What makes those tanks better than the 90A? The ZTZs to my knowledge have larger weakspots, no side armor, and weaker rounds, (do they even get good thermals of at all?), etc. The T-80UD/BE has nothing to my knowledge over the T-90A the 90A still has the best turret armor, an APS, is a lot more HE resistant, has the hatch DM bug, and has 1130HP (I think the UD has only 1000 yes?).
You’d be shocked how many people uptier stuff. In the rare case, it’s better than no APS… If you typically never get hit, that’s fine. It’s still better to have armor than to not (if mobility is more or less the same). Furthermore that’s one point to stick to.
Oops I forgot that. I guess. But things like the Abrams, Ariete, Leclerc, TKX (P), Type 90, Merkavas, etc will out reload you still. It’s really the Leopards, and the earlier Merkavas that will basically take the hit on than reload battle. Also don’t the ZTZs other than the 99A have 7 sec reloads aswell?? Why doesn’t that take them down?
That LFP is huge, that breech has less of a trunnion funny bug where it struggles off APFSDS (or at least for me I shell shatter less on the ZTZ).
ERA aswell, you’d be shocked the major difference 20mm and ERA that can eat 120mm ammo can make against auto cannons. I haven’t played the ZTZs so that’s why I asked about those aspects. But overall other than the +2 to the Hp/t, better horizontal traverse, and slightly better vertical. It seems relatively on par of not less forgiving in some was as far as armor goes. But in those other categories it’s made up for. So idk.
I did enjoy playing the 90A but it’s kinda scary being slower than an Abrams & Leo going out with even less armor. The ZTZ is a lot better than I thought tho. Can’t wait to grind China when I get the chance.