been trying out the trophy abrams just got a nuke in it we lowkey might be so back only thing america needs rn in my opinion is better spaa options
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Technically the bulkhead nerf on the abrams is what is allowing the new mango 2 to perform so well.
And the t80 didn’t need it. One of the only downsides that tank had was having to choose between better pen or faster reload. And let’s not forget that due to nato having much larger weak spots, the mango was still sufficiently able to pen damn near everything.
The one buff that gaijin finally gave the Abram’s hull is now completely defunct because they just magically decided to give new stock rounds to top tier mbt’s. While most nations benefit from this, it’s quite clear that the t80bvm has benefited the most.
For example, while the m829a2 is a solid round, against any russian mbt you still have to aim for the weak spots. Meanwhile the t80bvm (which is probably russia’s best tank), has now retained its ability to lol pen the Abram’s lfp without having to sacrifice reload speed.
So once again, the one semi decent thing gaijin did for the Abram’s, is now pointless.
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I know it’s ai, but for this instance it’s quite sufficient. So save the hissy fit cause I don’t care to hear about it.
T80 got this unrealistic round, but receiving the m829a4 round specifically made for the sep v3’s data linking upgrade feature was out of the question.
Say it with me, “Russian bias”
Go on, tell me I’m wrong. I know I’m not. 😂
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I am discouraged and hopeless when facing double standards from GJ. They can do things based on fantasy (things everyone knows), but when we need them to make adjustments, they require lengthy documentation like the Great Wall of China, which still might not be accepted or they respond with “not enough info.”
3BM42-2 just never got mass produced due to the current economy in Russia. Also. there is no longer a reason to produce the mango 2 when most of the tanks the round was designed for(T80BVM,T90M, and the 2016 model T-72B3), were upgraded to field longer ammunition like 3BM60.
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This is informative, however it’s not a reason why the bvm should’ve received the mango 2 round.
I’m just saying, it’s a realistic round. The Abrams getting a bulkhead nerf was what allowed for this new mango-2 to reliably pen anywhere on the lower hull.
The same is for a lot of top tiers that got new rounds… even the m829 is enogh to kill the t80 on the front, the only ones that actually need it would be some that had extremely sub par munitions like the leclerc with the G1 or the strv 122 that had the dm23
I don’t have problem if AbramSepv3 armor not that bad, new stock round for everyone equal, everyone happy
If the SEPV3 had the armor to play how the M1 Abrams itself was on release, we would be having an amazing time.
That is a story about shooting skills, not because of the bullet; APFSDS over 200mm can penetrate the T-80’s underbelly. Many people are off-topic here.
In that case none of the other 12.7 MBTs needed new stock rounds either.
Russian bias when a lot of SEPv3 players have a 70+ WR in it.
A round that never entered service with that particular tank is not a realistic round. It’s gaijin stretching truth to maintain russian dominance. It did not need it nor should it have it. It’s was not a balancing issue considering how the original mango was able to pen damn near every nato tank, nor is it a historical issue.
Per Gaijins logic if we are forgetting things like KH38MT, is to at least have something that says it was trialed and tested. Full scale production does not matter.
I know you’re saying this like it’s a bad thing, however, nato tanks still have to take the time to aim for the pinpoint weakspots on russian mbt’s. This didn’t change with getting higher penning rounds. However the buff to the sep v3’s hull is now completely useless. So yeah, I’d say reverting it back would be ideal.
Again, it’s a skill requirement; the features of the vehicle are just supplementary. Two people with the same level using two different tanks will produce different results. I’m tired of you all going off-topic.
The t80 bvm turret isnt really hard to pen, even with m829 you can still go trough areas without era on the turret face
Kh-38M not MT