It’s currently a 50G missile tho. I havent seen reports for higher G loads.
It was initially 60G, but since that 50G report managed to pass through developers, it seems they didn’t have accurate data on this either.
I personally trust that 60G is probably accurate, but you’ll have to convince me it does anymore
Oscillating is an issue with many missiles worst being python 5 imo.
The day MICA is declassified will be a day of reckoning /s
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Seems I slightly mis-remembered. That paper you have on the MICA rocket motor states the motor is designed to withstand “about 50 g” of lateral acceleration, I thought it said “up to 50 g”. So I guess it’s up for debate what “about” means, but I doubt it means much more than 50g (maybe 55 or so) and they obviously wouldn’t design a missile to pull more g than the motor case could withstand else the missile would snap in half (as happened to some Sidewinders in development).
And note that it’s while lofting too
So lofting isn’t everything, that applies to MICA as well. The drag on these missiles is quite insane
Camm-er looked pretty pathetic too
Only primary source says that IRIS-T air and ground are the same.
The other sources, although I can’t confirm, but I have been told either don’t mention 50G or are barely passable as secondary sources
Anyway…
If these changes go through for MICA EM, then we are gunna need Aim-120C8s or later to have a chance of remaining competitive. Let alone giving everyne an equal seeker
And probably our Gen 5 IRs to remain competitive in WVR.
Rafale Would go up in BR and the Mirage 2K would replace it at 14.3
It’s pretty crazy to ask for a 2015+ missile to compete with a 1996 missile.
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Well if you have two planes flying head on at like Mach 2 I’m sure you’ll get well over 80 km of launch range out of current MICA EM in game.
Edit: Statshark says you’ll get about 90 km of range out of that scenario.
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Not really. If aim120b/c-5 worked realistically they would be arguably better.
It would be fine if they modeled Aim-120A/B/C5 correctly. or gave us our 1998 missiles, instead of the 1980s missile we are currently forced to use .
AMRAAM can barely be used against anything further than about 20km away and C5 is easily defeated at 5km.
Most nations dont have HOBS or anything that really competes with MICA EM in its current state
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Hence why I think « fixing » MICA is currently not a priority at all. Reports are made tho, devs can implement them whenever they want. I personally think this « fix » should only be due when IIR missiles are added to planes, when the playing field will be evened out
yes, those 2 will inevitable go up in BR… So will EFT and cie when 5th gen IR missiles are introduced tbf.
Already discussed, not how you measure a missile range
Or in that case AMRAAM A&B is overperforming by far in that department, since it has more or less the same public range as MICA but can reach further in the scenario you describe
Can’t apply a standard to a missile and an other one for a different missile.
Knowing Gaijin… They’ll get implented sooner rather than later.
For some reason they like making it stronger. At the very least .MICA EM has already gotten more bug fixes than Aim-120 (any variant) has.
Im just talking about these proposed MICA EM changes.
Rafale is already 14.7 worthy, in a vacuum, would need to be 15.0+
Given that MICA IR is just a MICA EM with an IR seeker. The French already have their “Gen 5 IR”.
Well, if you count the nerfs the C has gotten, technically they have had more « fixes » ahah
Fair enough. While i don’t personally think rafale should be 15.0 compared to current 14.3, I do agree there’s a gap to say 14.7 as is. Tho, there is still a huge compression at high tier (like 12.0-13.3), so a higher top BR would still be welcomed (say 15.3 to 16.0 ahah)
Most of those I think were probably wrong and they were just reducing it from what it should ahve been down to match the performance of the A/B which is underperforming.
Some things maybe.
But others have been removed seemingly for no reason. The seeker change, the HOB (should start turning sooner, even tho it turns less with clipped wings overall)…
All in all, from what I recall, the MICA didn’t have that many reports actioned aside from initial setup during dev. Mainly the seeker FoV, I don’t really remember anything else ?
MICA was strong from the get go, it’s just the Rafale that made it so much better, since it gets in firing positions even faster than the already excellent M2K
France is the only nation with their Gen 5 “IR” missile currently.
Which is why the Mirage and Rafale are the meta