Sowy bwo i’m bad with remembering pseudos sometimes yours is just way too similar to the name one of my friend used in a game som time ago which was gunmod
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If the missile is capable of doing 20km while it is stationary at 0 ground speed and sea level, then it could be capable of much greater range when launched from an aircraft at high speed and high altitude. However, I don’t know what altitude or speed this would be for 80km. You would find out at the same time as me. It’s a possibility the missile may not be able to reach 80km in range because of battery time as well.
Gaijin now has everything they need to model the missile accurately. Two sources demonstrating 6.7 seconds burntime. And then after that, they also have the data showing when ground launched, it’s capable of 50G until 7km away. After they model that, then it’s accurate when air launched. Nothing else is needed to be done besides maybe guidance stuff.
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Given that the 80km range stated doesn’t give the conditions like at what altitude or speed, the 80km range is kinda useless unfortunately.
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I would still include air estimates… could see Gaijin just giving it a 20km range because of only the hard data on VL xD
The mach 3 figures is for the VL-MICA with an initial speed of 0 and an maximum speed of mach 3.
We have a Delta-V (End Speed - Initial Speed) of around 1000m/s.
The 900 DV with a Mach 4 maximum speed is for an air launched missile where the plane that launch the missile is already above Mach 1. So the DV is (Mach 4 - Mach 1+) which make it around 900m/s or so.
For reference, the Aim-120A/B is said to have a range greater than 15km but under 20km when launched from the NASAMS.
The AIM-120C5 is around 25km and the AIM-120C7 is around 30km.
The AMRAAM-ER (ESSM with an AMRAAM homing head) has a range around 40/50km.
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Well, would be good to find a primary source saying as much. I’ll have to dig around. If what you say is true, then we should know that the MICA EM is better in terms of range kinematically. However, AIM-120A may be able to have higher lofting trajectory and more guidance time allowing it to travel greater ranges although that might not matter too much.
Tbh; I think the in game DV value should be 750 from what I’ve seen.
I’m seeing more than 750 DV…
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955829235493273680/1145369373159202917/image.png
This information is pulled from the Czech calculations / source.
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Single stage motor; why does yours have a sustainer?
Because it models the differences in thrust over time that single stage motors have. Even single stage motors ramp up in thrust to peak before going back down, so the Czech Republic Department of Air Defense took that into account to have accurate modeling.
Mica NG is dual pulse; but it seems the original Mica is single pulse with a DV of 750m/s.
Which data is this Czech source?
MBDA repeatedly understates a missile’s capability early on before releasing more information or more accurate information. It once said MICA has 12km in VL, but overtime admitted to it having 20km in VL. I posted proof of this above. It’s the same for Meteor where they initially claimed 100km range before going up to 200km
Take a look at this post. Explains everything hopefilly.
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Rangers are usually more variable/dependant than a motors velocity increment. I think that’s quite a good indicator of performance.
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This also makes sense, at 12km G-Pull drops to 30g’s, this indicates the missile is no longer burning/utilising TVC at this range, suggesting a relatively short burn time and therefore 750m/s seems fitting.
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Well, I’m not exactly sure myself. I presented everything in a report for devs to figure out and calculate it. So we’ll see how it is when it comes to the game.
MICA is 160mm missile, AIM-120 is 177.8mm. The AIM-120 will be higher drag by design of the wings as well as caliber.
The MICA has approximately 11% less propellant than the AIM-120, but the AIM-120 is 32% heavier.
The result is 26.7% more DeltaV for the MICA (at 1152 m/s)… this makes sense to me based on the design. There are a number of other factors but under any circumstances, just knowing the size of the missile and propellant mass alone is sufficient to say that it has to be above 750 m/s. There’s simply no way the MICA has such a low overall DeltaV.
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