People saying the MICA never should have been added and is way to strong while being in the best and second best BVR platforms in the game is wild to me
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Yeah, i’m still waiting for it to be fixed so much things are wrong, it makes no sense that a key feature of a plane is still after more than 6 months this wrong especially when bugs reports have been made, i thought with the rafale they would fix it, but it seems like core features for vehicles are not a priority for gaijin especially in the french tech tree.
And well it is fair for a weapon to be stronger than others, that it is for tank, planes or ship, everyone has it’s own design etc.
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Well the same could be said about the people moaning about the MICA underperforming. When played properly it is by far the best ARH missile in the sense that the employment envelope in which the missile is “unavoidable” is better than any other.
It’s not the best at being sling from mach Jesus up high, but it doesn’t have to be! Any missile fired like that is only going to hit someone with skill issue or someone that complains multipathing doesn’t work(lmao).
HOB from HMD lock is by far the best way to employ ARHs and the MICA does it better than any other. to the point you can reliably fire it in dogfights, and if the missile doesn’t outright kill them, the maneuver they are forced to take to dodge it basically gives you a free gun kill.
And it is only going to get stronger if they ever allow ARHs to be fired from IRST locks, like they should be able to.
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The MICA is situational, only ever able to really be effective at the later mid to end stages of the game. Essentially just mopping up whoever is left, sure it’s good at that but they’re essentially pointless in the first half of the game.
Every ARH should have trade offs but that doesn’t mean that they should be useless at any stage, just less competitive. The MICA missing 37.5% of its range and being extraordinarily draggy and slow past 15km makes it pretty useless.
Saying “it’s too strong it shouldn’t have been added” is beyond stupid, especially when people take their airframes out of their element (I.E F-15E players dogfighting Rafales) and cry about how they’re not undefeatable in every aspect.
Every ARH is the best or extremely competitive to the best in a singular aspect. Complaining about it being good at what it is designed to be good it is dumb. So the same thing cannot be said about those trying to fix the MICA.
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Which only exists because the average ARB player is too stupid to be playing in tiers with ARH missiles.
Not sure how that’s relevant to people saying the MICA shouldn’t have been added but go off
Because you moan like it’s unuseable! When it very clearly is not!
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For the first part, i don’t see your point, war thunder aims to be realistic, as far as i know other aircraft have their fox 3 missile mostly properly implemented in the game and well if you go for such argument playing properly an early tank with apfsds against top tier mbt is totally fine.
And for your second point, nobody claims mica is the best, we just want it fixed period.
And instead of claiming that it is a good missile you should watch how this missile succeed to miss bot in test drive even if perfectly fired for example as it can overcorrect too much.
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No fox-3 is correct in-game, even the -120 that every loves to bitch about somehow being “OP”.
I’ve had no such issues with it in my own usage. My problem is not with the missile. It’s with the people pretending its somehow abysmal junk when that couldn’t be further from the truth.
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No? I stated it was very usable and sometimes the best for certain scenarios. Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?
Again not relevant to people saying it should be removed, unless you’re one of them.
As far as i know the big problem with fox 3 are the seeker.
Don’t get me wrong with the better airframe that is the rafale it is way more useable and i have a way better time with the mica, that does not mean it is not lacking and by a lot with problems that can be really irritating with abnormal restrictions that forced you to be defensive all the time especially when playing the mirage, it can be great but the way it is in the game currently is not well put together.
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Interesting bit of article from Air & Cosmos, interview of chief of staff for programs & development in the french navy :
The article itself is a bit off topic (Stealth ‘frigates’ Courbet-class renovation and replacement) but there is one interesting thing :
Yellow part translates as : “VL MICA is more adapted on a middle sized corvette, especially when we consider that by the time they [replacement of Courbet-class frigates] come into active service, it [VL Mica] will most likely have an anti-ship capability”
Seems like they plan to make the MICA an anti-“ship” missile (and i put ship in quotes : the warhead size would only allow the targetting of small sized crafts, a bit like what the mistral could do on some ground vehicles)
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How’s that?
Back it up please.
Their seekers are the exact same, if you can notch an AIM-120 than you should have no issue notching a MICA.
I’m not asking you about your feeling, but numbers and proofs.
They are literally the exact same, I forgot where the data sheet was but if I find it I’ll get back to you. In the mean time look at in game stats, all ARH seekers except for AIM-54 and F-90 are the same.
EDIT: found it:
Then by this Sheet, your saying is wrong:
PID parameters of SD-10A and MICA-EM are different, and many others does too.
PID correctors are a seeking function that refine the values in order to get the best guidance.
Since those values are different - Seekers are different too.
That is being incredibly pedantic to prove absolutely nothing. You’re right I guess, lucky you.
You can see it the way you like,… fact are numbers and numbers shows that seekers are differents.
Yet, i don’t necessarly agree on the MICA-EM seeker > AIM-120 ones,…
because flightmodels are wrongly modelized on MICA-EM too,… which forces players to uses them into short range capability of the missile.
The problem then is the way MICA-EM is wrongly modelized, and not the seeker itself.
If you wanna get pedantic about it, it is your choice, not mine.
I remainned neutral on the whole discussion, only asked you to back up claims.
They are functionally the same.
Happy now??
Notching an AIM-120 will be extraordinary similar to notching a MICA.
Look at you saving the world from my dastardly disinformation.
Ignore how all Doppler settings are the exact same, which is literally what determines notching.
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