The Scimitars problem (s) FV107

WIP:

The CVR(T) Chassis is one of my personal all time favorites. It is also liked by many others as well. I remember getting quite excited when I heard Gaijin announce that they would be adding it into the game. Ohh boy, was I pretty disappointed. Loads of issues from the FCS to the incorrect engine labeling.
Most of all after taking some time to look into several issues more closely I’ve come to realize Gaijin was very lazy in their development of this iconic vehicle.

The Armor is WOT like:
Firstly I just want to point out that Gaijin did not even model the full thickness armor plating on the FV107 like they do on a lot of other vehicles. (Like the T-55A below)
This magically turns what would be several feet of solid Aluminum 7039 into 38mm or less in a few points.
This is consistent throughout the entire vehicle.


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One instance of question I have is here. They managed to model the thickness of the plate on the Fox but the scimitar has a slanted inner plate on the turret making its volumetric thickness less that IRL. as that plate is actually just a thick solid plate welded as a butt joint to the upper turret plate. In fact the lower plate looks to be thicker than the top as to increase the overall thickness to be what the line of sight thickness would be for the upper plate. The requirement for the FV107 was to be resistant to Russian 14.5mm anti tank rounds fired from the front.


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I believe this plate to be closer to 50mm or more IRL.

Lower cast transmission armor and lower plate:
The entire lower frontal plate was one unit likely being 35mm there was a weldment at the bottom of the rounded section that connected it to the floor in what looks like a butt joint directly after the radius. I hardly see why the frontal section would be so thin if it had to resist 14.5mm rounds at 200 meters.



Upper frontal plate and Steel engine cover:
The basic hull of this vehicle is aluminum that has been welded together to create a “Tub” 4 walls and a floor. The sides and flat front have type of flush joint to allow the flush bolting of the upper frontal plate.
The forward plate plate looks like it was milled to have a 90 degree recess the depth of the upper plate. The sides have an angle iron section welded to it at the depth needed to mount it flush. Both seem to have a tap and dye to allow bolting (could be drilled and avdeled on the angle iron (L bracket) )

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Lastly is the engine cover should actually be made from steel and be around 10-15mm thickness and the radiator covers should be aluminum of the same thickness over the top of the upper frontal plate.
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The sides seem to be consistent with a 20mm thickness meaning that the extruded part of the frontal plate that the upper frontal plate lays into is likely also 20mm. As seen in the shots below the frontal plat does not have a lip like the sides and is significantly think. My general guess is it would be thick enough to stop 14.5 AP (c) effectively so around 45-50mm as well.


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Theres several accepted bug reports on scimitar which have had nothing done with them

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Yes a bit annoying that the armour is all wank too. Really little effort was put into that. I wonder what sources gaijin even used for the scimitar.

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Made a bug report explaining the issue.
CVR(T) family armor protection // Gaijin.net // Issues

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Easy to see that front plate is significantly thicker than 35 mm

Here is a picture from its manual Gaijin.