shell shattered
you can pen things from further away but the ROF of RARDEN is lacking
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Paradoxically, I never had issue with APDS shattering. If anything, Im surprised by the amount of spall it generates, assuming it will pen of course. Straight up insert the clip of Alex Jones saying “Destroy the child” (of course I had shots that do nothing but yellow the gunner, but I dont get them that often).
As for RoF, I absolutely dreaded it, Morvran can testify as I confided that in our private convo, but after playing it, it isnt that bad. If anything, it forces me to actually place my shots unlike with XM800T or Marders which are just “brrrt until it dies or gun goes red”
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Its rare for an APDS to actually make some spalling i know.
Anyway, correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the Mk II Scimi get thermals? If so, its on my wishlist together with the Sheridian TTS.
The mk2 did get a new sight system that included thermals and a LRF if im remembering correctly. it would also get the cummins diesel so would have more horsepower.
Scimitar mk2 would actually fit 7.7 which is nice, so expect it to be 8.7 because gaijin hates britain
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LRF AND more HPT? Sign me in lol.
At one hand, its kit wouldnt be unheard of at such BR. at other, base scimi is already good at 7.7. Then theres Fox at 8.0 and Warrior at 8.3. would need to see it implemented to pass judgement on this one.
scimi 2 would be a warrior without the composite armour and no MILAN rocket and a far worse turret traverse. it would need to be lower. 7.7 with the fox would be logical ( i think the fox was perfectly fine at 7.7 but thats another issue) and move the scimitar 1 lower.
Speaking of the CVRT family I would love to see the Scorpion, but that would probably require the devs fixing HESH which is less probable than winning the lottery.
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but better mobility, no? trade-offs and what not.
as in one step to 7.3, or 1 whole BR lower?
about the same in mobility, warrior probably better due to more gears
in current state i think it would still be mid at 6.3 but id put it at 7.0 as balance, its surrounded by .50 cals and heavies which means it needs to flank because it hasnt got turret speed to just dance around everything
again, would need to see it implemented to pass judgment.
That is certainly one of the takes of yours.
i know it sounds unorthadox and will give people flashbacks to 6.7 fox. But the thing is functionally a hellcat with far worse penetration on the gun surrounded by things it can only even think of fighting side on while not having the mobility to just make everything a side on fight like fox could.
that plus no protection from .50 cal means it would on paper be fine there. only reason it could exceed there is enemy skill issue
Man, sure.
Id like to think id know where it would fit after playing it so much and reading so much of its documentation and manuals at least… Scimitar and scorpion were a british counterpart to the sheridan so makes sense for the scimitar to be same BR as 76mm sheridan
The Thermals and LRF came before Mk.2
The Scimitar Mk.2 is basically a late model FV103 Spartan with a late model Scimitar Turret.
If you want a Scimitar with LRF and Thermals there’s quite a few options:
Scimitar E/SPIRE, with Thermals and LRF
Scimitar E/SPIRE LEP, the above but with the Cummins Diesel
Scimitar E/SPIRE LEP EM 235, the above but with a new final drive + uprated engine, and upgraded thermals and FCS.
Scimitar BGTI LEP, a Scimitar E/SPIRE LEP, but with the Sights and FCS from the Warrior.
(There’s also an experimental Scimitar with the TOGS sight replacing the old IR one. But I have not idea about the FCS)
da12thmonkey has a good write up here:
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I knew ive read something like that somewhere, but couldnt find it again and thus i didnt mention it.
Anyway, more mobility and LRF is a yes from me.
Personally before another Scimitar I’d like to see some of the Scorpion mods:
e.g. Scorpion IFV or SPAAG
or even the Scorpion Kastet hehehe
I trained as a reserve armored gunner in the mid-80s on the
, a Canadian 6 wheeled AVGP that had the Scorpion turret and 76mm low velocity gun. Unless Gaijin pulls it’s head out of it’s ass and fixes HESH, that poor thing will suffer greatly, and you’ll be lucky to scratch the paint on anything in game.
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dont worry mate i have you covered.
I own the technical handbook of the scorpion and have a R.A.R.D.E report on the 76mm HESH shell to make sure anything related to them is done right. from my report the 76mm should behave pretty much exactly how the 105mm HESH does in game (however slightly slower shell velocity) the LAV with scorpion turret will be on my watch too
Actually I was talking about this:
Would basically be a Bradley without the Tows on a better chassis.
Eh, the HESH is extremely similar to the 90mm HESH found on the Italian Aubl 74 and C-13 (Which works quite well in my experience) in terms of explosive weight etc[1], so the overpressure performance should work out the same, and with 80mm of pen [2] it should actually be able to upper front plate a Panther etc, so I wouldn’t write off 76mm HESH immediately. Putting around 5.3-5.7 would be fair IMO.
[1] MECAR/NEXTER Catalog Pg. 116 - Nexter 2016 Catalog : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
[2] Repaircraft/Scorpiontank.co.uk briefing Pg.6 - 76mm Main Gun Technical Briefing (8 November 2011) | PDF | Gun | Ammunition