It could be even stronger. In fact, the only reason the BV 238 is at 3.7 BR is that the turrets keep doing this abomination:
The day this plane can make its 12x13 mm + 2x20 mm actually reach the target, it will immediately become a 6.0 BR.
Yeah, thats quite true
Delusional.
The B-29 can bring, at the very least, the same firepower as a P-51 to bear on someone tailsitting.
*6x 12.7mm due to much better turret placement
Up at 7600m, which you’ve said they’ll never reach. At low alt, the A-26B is 100kph faster than the G8N, even faster than some fighters.
Literally any fighter ever that isn’t something armored like a Bf 110 G.
The B-29 can bring at most 4x 12.7mm M2 MGs with only AP rounds to bear on a tailsitter. That is BR 2.3 level armament. Actually, let’s compare the armament of the G8N1 to the B-29.
G8N1:
B-29:
Oh wow, the G8N1 has much better armament in virtually all areas and is at a lower BR.
Potentially, but the same would apply to the B-29.
Ah, so nothing the B-29 currently faces (as everything it faces has enough armor to render the 12.7mm M2 virtually useless beyond 500m).
3x of its turrets., 6x .50cals. Top ones can also attack backwards, if you’re banking a little or giving it some slip.
Man I wonder why the slower bomber with a fraction of the bombload is a lower BR
Again, bomber mains are delusional. Thinking 6x .50s does nothing when I just saw a Ki61 get obliterated by a P-61’s rear gunner (4x .50s) in seconds takes a special kind of mental problem.
That’s not from a tailsitting position.
I wonder why the B-29 is at 7.3, then, since besides bombload it is massively slower than everything at its BR and does not have equal or favorable armament compared to the fighters around its BR.
The Ki-61s -
What the B-29 faces -
While these are not all of the opponents the B-29 faces, and not all of the planes that it faces have armor, but all of the opponents the B-29 faces can pen the B-29 from farther away than the B-29 can pen them.
Also don’t forget that the B-29 is facing against planes that go 1.3-1.6x as fast as the Ki-61s.
As is the case with the vast, VAST majority of fighters. Even the ones considered to be “durable” don’t have frontal protection, that only being granted to the pilot due to the engine being in the way.
The fuel tank is unprotected, and any hit to the 262’s wings will make it almost unflyable due to a bad FM. It was designed to exclusively shoot at bombers, and its no surprise its good at doing it.
Again, the fuel tank is unprotected and like the 262, it can easily be hit from the front. No early jet engine is resistant to damage.
Unlike the other two, hits to the fuselage will also result in engine damage. Also, this is now a full uptier for the B-29, and a situation where even with escort fighters and formations in real life, they suffered great losses.
I agree!
also the b-25’s and b-17’s cause they also got tail gunners
Dont forget, some planes in the B-29 BR range apparently also carry Air to Air missiles…
The main issue is that a single 37mm HEFI will take off a B-29s wing or tail.
Germany considered 55mm cannons and ultimately used the 55mm R4M Rocket to down B-17 and B-24s in a single hit.
The R4M carries an insane 520g of explosive over a 37mm 40-50g and even the 55mm cannon shells carried 420g. Of course the 37mm can absolutely destroy a B-29 in a single hit, except the chances are very low, as the round would either need to disable the tail controls or explode inside the fuel tank to completely rupture it. Which non-realistic can only happen from an attack from below or above.
But since every aircraft in WT has the structural integritiy of a wooden toy aircraft, they just fall out of the sky after a few explosive rounds.
Now that would be a hole with an area of whooping 0.56m² which is just a fraction B-17s tail controls and even making a square meter hole wouldn’t be detrimental.
But in WT you can say goodbye to your wing or tail.
Now of course the 37mm entire point was to be an effective anti-bomber weapon but it’s still just one gun, and a 37mm isn’t a 50mm firing Mineshells with 350g of explosive.
That being said, the 37mm is a pretty weak performer. Type 5’s 30mm tracerless HEF has 47g of filler; the MK108 has 90-102g of it depending on exact type and the MK103 has just a little less at 86g. 37mm HEF-T out of the BK 3.7 has double that of the russian gun at 108g.
Total projectile mass also isn’t kind to it, 880m/s w/ .74kg projectile, vs the BK’s 914m/s and .55kg. The NS-37 isn’t a peashooter but it is way behind the “bomber destroyer” guns.
90% of bomber gameplay problems could be solved by better map design and implementation, but gaijin stopped caring a long time ago. All these debates about bomber damage models and armament can only be implemented well if bombers get a meta shift. That said, I think the b 29 should get the 20mm in the tail turret and m23 needs to be fixed
But that is not the case for the majority of the fighters that the B-29 faces because it is 7.3.
The fuel tank is self-sealing, and most hits to the 262’s wings will not do anything at 500m (and at 700m+ most of the wings are impenetrable).
Again, the fuel tank is self-sealing and again the wings are impenetrable at 700m+ (and do little to nothing at 500m).
Idk if you’ve played the B-29 but you see 8.0-8.3 nearly every game.
Yup, I’ve died to them several times.
Give us RB EC pls.
Players don’t have the patience for air RB ec
I’m confident that a number of players have quit over the atrocious mission design of Air RB as it is right now who used to play when we had bigger maps for props.
I’m also confident they’d come back for air RB EC.
The question is are there enough returing players to make it worth it
It isnt an air superiority fighter. The guns are a defensive measure.
Waiting for a rain of .50cal fire to go through my engine or pilot’s face. Surely not a fuel tank.
Yes, its accurate because the hole isnt everything. Think of the energy that round delivers.
The wing of an aircraft is unarmored. Your .50 will go through it, and if not outright kill the aircraft via fuel fire, heavily damage it.
Yes, it is accurate because the hole isnt everything. Think of the energy that round delivers.
Ripping off the tail requires far more energy then a 37 delivers. And the 37mm HEFI shell is fundamentally not designed to do that. It’s in the name. It’s designed to send a ton of incendiary fragments throughout the internals. It’s going to do a lot of physical damage, but nowhere near enough to rip the tail clean off
